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DeMint: 'Serve America' Dangerous to U.S.
CBN ^ | 2009-04-02 | Jennifer Wishon

Posted on 04/02/2009 7:00:55 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

CBNNews.com - WASHINGTON - The Serve America Act, named for Massachusett's Senator Ted Kennedy, is an effort to increase volunteerism.

But some lawmakers say its patriotic name that hides a dangerous agenda.

. . . . .

"I think what we're going to see is secular causes, political causes being supported with this program," Sen. Jim DeMint R-SC told CBN News. "But you won't see this money running through faith organizations, because of this line that we've created: what we call church and state."

DeMint expects organizations to emerge that counter efforts of Christian charities and for money to start flowing through groups with political agendas like ACORN.

He also fears government intrusion into the private charitable sector will be devastating.

"I've seen this work at the local level and it is everything that government is not. It's small, it's accountable, it's personal and it's responsible," DeMint said.

DeMint believes Serve America takes the U.S. down a dangerous path that will lead to participants forming unions and demanding healthcare.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: bho44; demint; demint2010; giveact; realconservatives

1 posted on 04/02/2009 7:00:55 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385
This will discourage faith based service, as only government sponsored programs will be approved. So youth today, who are already serving somewhere will be required to serve somewhere else also, or give up where they are currently serving, to serve at a government sanctioned event.

SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.

(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.

2 posted on 04/02/2009 7:12:06 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yeah, “it’s dangerous for America” Demint says. What he doesn’t say is “But please don’t expect me to do anything about it, I just want to be on record at Fox News as having opposed the concept. I don’t have enough guts to shout anything from a mountaintop, to raise such a racket that might ever defeat something like this. After all, I’m just another pussy, wuss-as$ Republican lawmaker who is more concerned about my position in Congress than helping the country survive the current leftist onslaught.”

Up yours, Demint.


3 posted on 04/02/2009 7:18:06 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: rabscuttle385
This is what I mean what I have been posting that Obama is attempting to so "jigger the system" that there will be no retrieving our democracy. Take charitable deduction away from our conventional charities and religions and pump billions through Acorn. Create indoctrination centers starting with our college-age youth and let the process seep downwards all the way to kindergarten when their minds are really malleable.

That so many Republicans in the Senate could have given their consent to this travesty begs the question whether anything will shake the party out of its sleepwalk?


4 posted on 04/02/2009 7:18:14 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: rabscuttle385
Here's a thought.

Read this:
(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

Would it be much of a stretch for a judge to read into this as meaning, that a person "serving" in this government program, could not, at anytime serve in an unapproved activity, while also serving the government?

In other words, a person could not serve the government on Tuesday and yet teach Sunday School on Sunday, or even attend church.

5 posted on 04/02/2009 7:21:46 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

Sure, if that judge were just as big of a fascist as the people who pushed and passed the legislation.


6 posted on 04/02/2009 7:23:24 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB
Sure, if that judge were just as big of a fascist as the people who pushed and passed the legislation.

Oh, and that would be hard to believe, why???

All they need is 1 judge to set the precedence, and the ball starts downhill from there.

1st (and 2nd and 3rd and...) try, the 9th circus court.

7 posted on 04/02/2009 7:31:32 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

See my post

“secession is the only option to preserve liberty”


8 posted on 04/02/2009 7:32:54 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: mountn man

Oh, that was on another thread... never mind the “see my post” part, the rest of it stands.


9 posted on 04/02/2009 7:33:39 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: raptor29
-- Up yours, Demint. --

DeMint is one of a handful of US Senators who utters statements of principle that I can respect. Only a ahndful. He was the ONLY one who spoke out in serious opposition to the bailout engineered by President Bush.

We have seen this Government socialize our education system and make our schools among the worst in the world. We have seen this Government take over most of our health care system, making private insurance less and less affordable. We have seen this Government socialize our energy resources and bring our Nation to its knees by cutting the development of our own oil and natural gas supplies. And now we see this Congress yielding its constitutional obligations to a Federal bureaucracy, giving it the power to control virtually our entire financial system. Americans understand this and they are angry. They are our judge and our jury. They are watching what we are doing, and they will render their verdict based on our actions.

If we were honest with the American people and explained the failures that have led to this financial crisis, we might have the credibility to ask our citizens to allow us to borrow another $700 billion in their name to try to fix this problem. But we are not being honest. This problem was not created by our free enterprise system. It was created by us, the Congress and the Federal Government.

I happen to like Senator DeMint, and urge him to quit the Senate and obtain honest work.

10 posted on 04/02/2009 7:38:36 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mountn man

Whatever happened to “Congress shall pass no law....?”
(rhetorical question only)


11 posted on 04/02/2009 7:40:57 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: rabscuttle385

Wait until the next step, when volunteering becomes compulsory. That should be prohibited by the 13th amendment, but you can’t count on the courts to interpret the laws according to their plain meaning any more. Or they can get around that by making community service a prerequisite for getting your income tax refund or a driver’s license or passport, or for getting Medicare in the case of seniors.


12 posted on 04/02/2009 7:53:45 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Cboldt

Yeah, Demint “utters statements of principle”. Well that’s just great. And what exactly does that get us? We need a far more aggressive response to what is happening, and Demint doesn’t have the cubes to be the one to lead the charge. So I have no time for him, or his careful, measured statements.


13 posted on 04/02/2009 8:14:00 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: rabscuttle385

And who says we ain't living in a "Twilight Zone" episode ?

14 posted on 04/02/2009 8:15:59 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: mountn man

I believe, yes, it could be interpreted that way.


15 posted on 04/02/2009 8:22:02 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: MrB
a) Secession

b) Revolution

c) Civil War

d) All of the above

16 posted on 04/02/2009 8:29:41 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: DTogo
One thing leads to another.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

This is a secession, leading to a Revolution (or civil war if you want to call it that).

The key to knowing what will happen when folks want no more of whats going on is in examination of the lib mindset.

This is the lib mindset: "pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism"

And they are NOT going to let us peacefully escape that despotism.

17 posted on 04/02/2009 8:33:20 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: raptor29
Your comment regarding Senator Jim DeMint, Yeah, “it’s dangerous for America” Demint says. What he doesn’t say is “But please don’t expect me to do anything about it, I just want to be on record at Fox News as having opposed the concept. I don’t have enough guts to shout anything from a mountaintop, to raise such a racket that might ever defeat something like this. After all, I’m just another pussy, wuss-as$ Republican lawmaker who is more concerned about my position in Congress than helping the country survive the current leftist onslaught."; is incorrect. FYI, Sen. DeMint offered an amendment to this bill that would have changed it, but the Democrats, with the help of some Republicans, defeated it. Senator DeMint is a man of principles, and if he were what you claim him to be, he would not be in the minority of those who speak out publicly against bail outs and other ill-conceived actions of Obama and his cabinet of tax cheats! Perhaps your comments are more descriptive of yourself than they are of DeMint...what have you done other than post derogatory comments here?
18 posted on 04/02/2009 9:54:05 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne

You still don’t get it. How many people in America even know who Jim DeMint is? Or any of his colleagues for that matter? The country is being stolen from us, rapidly, daily, and Jim DeMint feels he has done his job by passively introducing ‘an amendment’, making a speech behind the closed doors of Congress, and then watching it die, which he knew it would given the current Democrat to Republican numbers in Congress. And you think that is strong representation? Until one of these weasels puts his political career on the line and does something genuinely bold and aggressive, and tells the unvarnished truth (that all of these cowards know), I’ll hold them all in contempt and I want them all out.


19 posted on 04/02/2009 10:34:56 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Cboldt

Demint also offered an amemndment to the Obama Youth bill
that would have prevented showing political favoritism funded by Obama Youth—it was voted down.


20 posted on 04/22/2009 7:50:49 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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