A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]

The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. ^ | 2009-03-31

[Carry_Okie]

Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million, or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,

Over $5,000 a head.

[maryz]

How do you dismantle something like this?

Didn't Tennessee discontinue their similar plan as unaffordable? And Hawaii (but I think that was just for children)?

[mountainbunny]

One question I never hear any pundit or reporter ask:

"Mr. politician please name one (1) country or state where socialized health care is successful".

That is a good question, but first of all, please define "successful".

Just what would a successful socialized medicine program look like?

[LeGrande]

Who are we going to support in the next election?

Jindal? Palin? Are we going to go through another primary with no good choices?

[swain_forkbeard]

“...most schools pay about $8000.00 a student...”

Whom do they pay? They sure aren’t paying me or my children.

I think you have it reversed. I pay them. Whether I use them or not. It’s coercive, and it restricts my choices for educating my children.

My point is that universal health care (what this thread was about) will operate similarly. You will have to pay, like it or not, and your options for care will be restricted.

You’re not, by chance, a public school teacher?

[Ann Archy]

yes.....WE pay $8000.00 a student. NO I’m not a public school teacher but I SOUNDED like one.

[Impy]

Say what? You mean it’s not “just like forcing you to buy auto insurance” as Broncobilly once told me or “much better than what the democrats would have done” as someone said. It’s exactly what the democrats wanted and they could have passed it over his veto if he had opposed it.

Or I suppose it’s all Deval’s fault cause he can’t run the socialist program properly like a genius like Romney can.

“I’m Alf Landon and I approve this message because as a Republican I can run FDR’s socialist programs better than him. I can’t believe I only won 2 states with that great platform.”

[broncobilly]

Two corrections:
1) that is an oversimplification of anything I would have said. I am against socialized medicine. Also I appreciate people's resistance to mandatory features. I would like to have a medical system something like what we have now, except I would want to make it easier for people to get reasonable insurance if they want it. And I would like to have a system that protects the hospitals who are forced to treat whoever domes to their door. I don't like having my medical costs raised to subsidize people who won't prepare for emergencies. I am open to any reasonable answers to those questions.
2) You say the democrats could have passed the MA system even if Romney had opposed or vetoed it. He did veto 8 features of what was passed. And they did override his vetoes. MA got their modified version of what Romney wanted.

[sickoflibs]

RE “Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) — price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage”

Naturally. One thing republicans might of proposed was a personal mandatory emergency room insurance policy, for those without insurance. The federal government already forces emergency room to treat patients, including illegals, and no republican suggests changing this law.There would have to be a punishment for those that show up for treatment without it, illegals.

In Maryland they socialize the cost by taxing our hospital bills directly to pay for uninsured. Maryland is illegal friendly and this makes the hospitals illegal friendly.

[socialismisinsidious]

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