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North Korea Threatens Military Action on Japan If It Shoots Down Their "Satellite" (ICBM) (Breaking)
Sankei News (quoting North Korean Central News Agency) ^ | 31 March 2009 | Sankei News

Posted on 03/31/2009 6:57:55 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

As expected (and they do tend to shoot off their mouths a lot with threats and big talk), North Korea delivered "the threat" tonight in an official statement out of their Korean Central News Agency (link to the original Japanese language report). North Korea is threatening Japan with military action if Japan takes down their Taepodong-2 (which they refer to as a "satellite") from the skies this week.

Conservative Japanese daily Sankei (online) reports from Japan (in Japanese) a little while ago:

HERE If above link does not work.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bidentest; dprk; kimjongil; korea; missile; musudanri; nkorea; northkorea; saberrattling; taepodong; tm
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Trying to intimidate the Japanese never works unless you actually have an atomic bomb in your pocket.

Well NK does have a few in their pocket, but the quality control isn't the best. However that only works if Japan doesn't have a few of their own. A situation that they could rectify in a few months (defense department estimate 4-6 months to a deliverable bomb) if they feel threatened. NK shouldn't be threatening them as it only makes their situation worse.
41 posted on 03/31/2009 8:57:10 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: mkjessup
People here don't realize how p!ssed off the Japanese still are about the Norks kidnapping Japanese right from Japan to work as language teachers.

While there is a threat of internal terrorism, the Japanese have never integrated Korean immigrants or their descendents, and keep pretty good files on them, especially the ones from North Korea. They wouldn't be averse to rounding them up if anything started even if that meant having to close down a majority of the pachinko parlors.

42 posted on 03/31/2009 9:03:14 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: mkjessup
I served with the USAF in Japan. Frankly, I was not impressed with what passed for a military there.

It's been awhile, but I wonder if Japan really has the hardware to do much to NK if the balloon goes up.

Not really up on there Japanese military capability, but if someone is, could you enlighten me?

Thanks,
AR

43 posted on 03/31/2009 9:05:09 AM PDT by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

I was thinking the same thing. Fry all the electrical components right on the launch pad. Wouldnt THAT be funny.


44 posted on 03/31/2009 9:08:12 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Abathar
Not to come to the defense of NK, far from it, but putting a sat into orbit, from NK or northern part of SK, you can't help but go over Japan. I mean, aren't most satellite orbits, directional, west to east? Yes I know there are polar orbits, that intersect equatorial orbits, and I suppose you could have them in counter orbits, but that would be like driving the wrong way on a one-way street?

Just asking, don't know much about orbital mechanics.

45 posted on 03/31/2009 9:24:29 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AmericanInTokyo

BTTT


46 posted on 03/31/2009 9:49:04 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: bert

Da johnson has no surrounding company.


47 posted on 03/31/2009 10:12:23 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: AmericanInTokyo

OH OH NOrth Korea is in big trouble if they go after Imperial Palace with Japan happy they won Baseball classic you know how thing work out it going be bad for North Korea


48 posted on 03/31/2009 10:46:50 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: CtBigPat

My favorite fantasy is that it blows up on the launch pad, and takes out the control bunker and the viewing stands.

My second favorite is that Kim’s army turns on him, and takes him out before this thing is launched.

I have a very active fantasy life, as you can probably tell.


49 posted on 03/31/2009 10:50:38 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Isn't there also a question about who is really running North Korea? Wasn't there some speculation a while ago that the "little pot bellied dictator" as Rush like to call him, was dead or incapacitated?
50 posted on 03/31/2009 10:54:19 AM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
The Sea Based X-Band radar is tied up at Ford Island right now for refitting. Dunno if it can be fired up and assist in tracking the NK missile.

Ship movements over the next few days will be interesting.............

51 posted on 03/31/2009 10:56:16 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
"...Secretary of Defense Gates specifically listed "an aberrant missile, one that was headed for Hawaii, that looked like it was headed for Hawaii" as an example of an exception to our policy of non-interference with the launch"

The interceptor missile will have a Hawaiian shirt painted on it along with Jimmy Buffet's mug and a quote: "Welcome to my island... beeeyatch"

52 posted on 03/31/2009 11:00:29 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: WellyP

The easiest way to orbit is to launch due east, taking advantage of the earth’s rotation. The satellite, however will follow a great circle tangent to the direction at deployment. Basically, if they want to replicate a sputnik like orbit, it would be a low earth (like 150 miles altitude) circular orbit, something like the equator but tilted so that most northly point would be the latitude of launch and the most southerly point the latitude of it’s antipode. The orbit would more or less remain fixed in space ( for the purpose of this conversation) but the earth would orbit under it, meaning that very point between these extremes would pass under its orbit.

Of course, a launch to east brings it over Japan. It’s pretty easy to tell whether or not a ballistic (not thrusting) trajectory will impact land or continue in orbit. During boost you cannot tell where it will wind up until the rocket motor cuts off.

The last N. Korean launch was unannounced and sailed right over Japan, which the Japanese did not take kindly to, in the least. It was also on a northeasterly course which took it over the heart of Japan and if it had had more velocity would have taken it on over Alaska and then down the west coast of the United States.

There are other considerations when planning a launch, such as range safety and the desired inclination of the final orbit. But a beginner would probably be satisfied with a successful launch towards the east.


53 posted on 03/31/2009 11:03:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Another N. Korean BLUFF!


54 posted on 03/31/2009 11:04:55 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Obama could stop this launch easily.

All he needs to do is promise hundreds of tons of food, millions of barrels of oil, and a team of Hughes rocket scientists to perfect their satellite launch technology!


55 posted on 03/31/2009 11:06:50 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (The Politicians think we're all stupid, and they're largely correct.)
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To: AFreeBird

Most orbits are west to east (”prograde”) because that’s the way the earth rotates. If you launch east to west (retrograde) you need to overcome the initial impetus imparted by the earth’s rotation. It’s a whole lot more expensive that way.


56 posted on 03/31/2009 11:09:54 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That’s what I thought. Thanks.


57 posted on 03/31/2009 12:20:54 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I’m just so wound up.

Six decades ago, my relatives fought against the bravest men on the planet - the Americans. They have passed away, but they always maintained their respect to the “Amerika jin” for their courage and determination to defend their country. WE LOVE BRAVE MEN.

In England, many Muslims asked me why the Japanese support the country that dropped nukes on us. I said, it’s because they were brave and really did their best.

Now, where are the real Americans, who love to fight? As General George Patton said, real Americans love to fight, and I still believe that.

If the freaking commies bomb us, I bet our nation will be absolutely out of control. We occupied Korea for 36 years, invested a lot, and doubled their population - believe it or not. WE WILL NOT DO THAT NEXT TIME.

I’ve dusted off my radio operator’s certificate. I will go home and join the JGSDF if necessary. F-ck my career in engineering. There won’t be any value in my PhD from Manchester University if our nation disappears.


58 posted on 03/31/2009 3:39:16 PM PDT by ykata
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To: ykata
As is oft said to scarfaced "chimpira" bullies suddenly encountered in nasty, danky alleyways in Kabukicho, Shinjuku, just before fisticuffs breaking out:

こん畜生、来るなら来いい、この野郎!

It may come down to that. I do see the LDP picking up public support by the day from the average Tanaka. Folks are mentally pulling the wagons in a circle over here in Japan, faced with this idiotic external threat from next door through no provocation of their own.

59 posted on 03/31/2009 6:25:41 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (We live in interesting times.)
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To: mnehring

Big difference now. The NKs have nukes and the Japanese DON’T. And the NKs can load them on some aircraft and then send about a hundred different aircraft vs Japan.

Will the nuke carrying aircraft get through?


60 posted on 03/31/2009 10:43:18 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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