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Bogeymen of the C02 hoax losing ground
Canada Free Press ^ | 3/30/09 | Tim Ball

Posted on 03/30/2009 4:25:16 PM PDT by pissant

You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you. Eric Hoffer

James Hansen, head of NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS), and Andrew Weaver, lead author of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Reports, made statements clearly designed to frighten people.

Both men are politically active in climate change and at the forefront of the attempt to convince the world that CO2 is a problem. Their remarks are intended to scare people by threatening impending doom – nothing new - except there is increasing urgency and fear because their message is failing. As Andrew Weaver summarized, ”All those fossil fuel emissions need to be eliminated. And we must do so quickly if we are to have any chance of stabilizing the climate and maintaining human civilization as we know it.”

Hansen increases urgency for action claiming we are on the verge of a tipping point, defined as follows. “Tipping points can occur during climate change when the climate reaches a state such that strong amplifying feedbacks are activated by only moderate additional warming.”

We’re reaching a tipping point, but it’s not the one Hansen anticipates. We’re close to the point where the public and politicians realize they have been totally deceived about the nature and cause of climate change. Even before a shift to concern about the economy polls showed a growing shift in public opinion.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; manbearpig
This is worse than a hoax. It is a marxist power grab, pure and simple
1 posted on 03/30/2009 4:25:16 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

...is it wrong to wish that all these people hyping CO2 and “carbon footprints” would solve the problem by wrapping themselves in cellophane and jumping into an active volcano?


2 posted on 03/30/2009 4:29:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: pissant
We have the Global Warming cultists on the run.

It is no longer generally accepted that Human Caused Global Warming is a genuine problem. Since they have lost the general argument, the Global Warming cultists pulled out all the stops to convince people of the problem on two specific days.

Before Election Day, they pulled the Mother of All Data Fudges and reported all of Russia's September temperature data for October, resulting in the Warmest October on Record, just in time for Barack Obama to be elected.

Immediately after the election, they had to admit their error, and looked like complete idiots and undermined the public faith in the reliability of their data.

Just before Election Day, the sensor for one of the two satellites that monitor Arctic ice “malfunctioned”, giving the erroneous result that Arctic ice cover was at historic lows, when in fact it was 30% more than the previous year.

Immediately after the inauguration, they had to admit that the satellite was grossly inaccurate, and that they reported the obviously anomalous data, instead of the accurate date from the functional satellite. Again, the public faith in the data was shaken.

You can tell they are panicked when they stop trying to win the argument and try to win the argument on one or two isolated days. This was George W. Bush's great talent, who was above 50% approval on only two days in eight years, both on Election Day. But, on the long haul, they are losing the argument, and they know it.

And now, the public is not going to be at all interested in their massive new tax proposals. Cap and Trade will go down in flames.

3 posted on 03/30/2009 4:41:00 PM PDT by gridlock (Counting the days until 2012...)
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Trained Astronomer & Climate Superstitionist !

4 posted on 03/30/2009 4:41:13 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("All current government programs are bad, and all future ones are good." - Dr. Milton Friedman)
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To: pissant

Hansen looks like Howdy Doody.


5 posted on 03/30/2009 4:59:19 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: pissant
This is worse than a hoax. It is a marxist power grab, pure and simple

I don't think Hansen is a marxist.
Megalomaniacal and stupid perhaps.

Hard to tell which is worse.

6 posted on 03/30/2009 5:18:51 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: pissant
Both men are politically active in climate change...

I suppose when the science fails all that's left is politics.

7 posted on 03/30/2009 5:31:36 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Hansen looks like Howdy Doody.

Please retract that statement. It's a vicious slur on Howdy Doody.

8 posted on 03/30/2009 6:00:08 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: gridlock
And now, the public is not going to be at all interested in their massive new tax proposals. Cap and Trade will go down in flames.

I certainly hope so...but after today and what they have planned with forcing Chrysler and GM to make "clean" cars I am not so sure....

I am looking for articles on that last comment which I heard on Kudlow's show on CNBC.

9 posted on 03/30/2009 6:02:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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OK....buried in this note:

A ‘Truly Breathtaking’ Departure

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Has Obama officially ushered in a new era of government-controlled business?

By Larry Kudlow

Team Obama fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner Sunday afternoon, just a short time after Treasury man Tim Geithner told the television talk shows that some banks will need large amounts of new TARP-money government assistance — even though the bankers don’t want it. Does this smack of big-time government planning and industrial policy? Another lurch to the left for economic policy?

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Incidentally, in President Obama’s speech on Monday about the Wagoner firing, as well as in Treasury term sheets for GM and Chrysler, there are multiple references to “the next generation of clean cars,” to new CAFE-standard mileage increases, and to green power-train developments. All this is a big green climate-change priority for the new administration.

But the simple fact is, small, tinny, and expensive green cars just don’t work for consumers. And even if those cars are designed better, the cost structure of the carmakers will have to be brought down so far that UAW wages will be forced below those of the non-union shops in Detroit south (including Honda, Toyota, and other foreign carmakers who are now producing in the United States).

So add the green revolution to the industrial-policy plans of the White House. Expect a big increase in CAFE fuel standards, even though small cars are simply not profitable. And plan on bailout nation taking a new left-turn toward the kind of central planning that has held down economic growth in Europe and Japan for so very long.


10 posted on 03/30/2009 6:07:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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From The Washington Times, January 12, 2009

Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution

by Stephen Dinan

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.

lots more...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
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Obama's "Climate Czar" is on the same page with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro...

From GreenLeft.org

VENEZUELA: Chavez calls for global offensive for socialism
August 31, 2005

excerpts...

"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."

"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."

"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."

--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm

11 posted on 03/30/2009 6:14:34 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You better believe these morons are socialists (at best) with global intent.


12 posted on 03/30/2009 6:20:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: gridlock
Cap and Trade will go down in flames.

Agreed.

Getting 60 votes in the Senate is a near impossibility, particularly from coal producing states like North Dakota and Pennsylvania.

13 posted on 03/30/2009 6:21:04 PM PDT by THX 1138
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Thanks Ernest.
 
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14 posted on 03/30/2009 7:02:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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"Has Obama officially ushered in a new era of government-controlled business?"

...and business-controlled government. It was happening long before Obama got into office, but he's allowing it to get worse much more quickly.


15 posted on 03/30/2009 10:10:10 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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16 posted on 03/31/2009 3:41:25 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I only hope more and more responsible scientist will be able to find their way to the public forum and educated people as to the futility in changing global climate conditions by human intervention.
As more in congress get pressured to become informed we may yet be able to hold off the wackos.
17 posted on 03/31/2009 6:16:24 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (I still believe Duncan Hunter would have been the best solution... during this interim in time....)
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