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Posted on 03/30/2009 12:59:42 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
With House Republicans expected to release their hard budget numbers this week, it’s worth noting that on Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” John McCain said Senate Republicans were working on a detailed budget alternative -- contradicting what we had heard previously from Senate GOPers.
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But Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, tells First Read that instead of working on a budget alternative, Senate Republicans are working on amendments.
(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...
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Yeah ammendments have worked so well. And we all know how well McCain has turned out. My question is when will we dump this whole fetid pile of absolutely useless GOP senators and get something new with a backbone and a set of cajones...
If Republicans behave like Democrats, why do we need two parties?
Amendments? WTF? The GOP is LOST
>> Amendments? WTF? The GOP is LOST
Aw, the whole damn Senate is just a giant circle jerking big government club. There isn’t a single one of ‘em any more that passes as a conservative. No leadership. None.
DeMint and Sessions are great. After that, well....
>> DeMint and Sessions are great.
Oh, there’s individuals that vote “right” (kinda sorta) some of the time.
But Sessions and DeMint fail in this important way: they should be taking principled leadership and shaming their clubbie buddies to cut the crap and find some principles and some spine.
But, good ol’ boy club that it is, Sessions and Demint, like all the others, vote right by day and party with the rest of the GOP goobers by night.
Like I said — no leadership.
The house seems to have learned their lesson and they’re banding together for the most part. Not the senate!
Demint, Coburn, Sessions, Vitter, Cornyn ... many others are good decent Senators.
It’s a good thing to have Amendments that will improve the budget. It’s even better to have a full budget alternative.
The problem is that 59 Democrats will say no automatically to any attempt to swerve back to fiscal sanity.
“But Sessions and DeMint fail in this important way: they should be taking principled leadership and shaming their clubbie buddies to cut the crap and find some principles and some spine.”
Wrong. They do exactly what you are asking them to do.
“My question is when will we dump this whole fetid pile of absolutely useless GOP senators and get something new with a backbone and a set of cajones...”
... Uh, we DID that - GOP has been replaced by Harry Reid and the Democrat super-majority.
It’s a bit unfair to calling 40 senators ‘useless’ when in fact it doesnt matter what they do - the Democrats will steamroller them anyway.
With all this mis-directed whining agaist Republicans, rather than a more productive and focussed CHALLENGE TO THE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST RULE, I shake my head and wonder if some conservatives want an all-marxist Senate. The concept of the limits of our power seems to be lost.
>> Demint, Coburn, Sessions, Vitter, Cornyn ... many others are good decent Senators.
Sorry, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
From what I have observed, there isn’t a single one of them, including the ones you mentioned, that places the principles that made this nation great ahead of their own personal and party interests.
Cornyn is nothing but a big poseur. As you know, he is my senator ‘cause he’s yours, too. He votes “right” some of the time, but he games every single vote for fundraising and re-election over principle. And he has failed miserably to show conservative leadership in his role as Senatorial chair.
Thought question: where in all of the GOP senate is the LEADERSHIP against the cruelest taxes of all — the massive inflation we’re about to undergo and the asininity that is Cap And Trade?
Demint, Coburn, Sessions, Vitter, Cornyn? NOPE. Not a single one of them.
Note again that the LIBERAL MSNBC is stirring up a GOP inter-party fight.
I note that like dogs after bones, some consevatives jump on this as “PROOF” that the GOP is screwing up.
But what if this is just more liberal MSM spin/bias/BS as much as the Obama-fever hes-the-messiah stuff is?
Why do conservatives take the liberal MSM spin as truth? Why do they help the Obama agenda to destroy GOP opposition to his plans?
If you are dissing the Republicans for whatever nitpicking crimes they are guilty of, you are doing what Carville, Begala and Obama want you to do. Food for thought.
Yeah we disagree ...
“Thought question: where in all of the GOP senate is the LEADERSHIP against the cruelest taxes of all — the massive inflation we’re about to undergo and the asininity that is Cap And Trade?”
Demint, Coburn, Sessions, Vitter, Cornyn
... HAVE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST CAP AND TRADE. And the budget - like Sen Gregg’s message on Saturday. You accuse them of not doing WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!
Your claim that they lack leadership is BS. The GOP has a mere 41 seats. If you have a specific position or statement or action they could or should take - out with it. I’m all ears. But frankly, there’s nothing these Senators can do to stop much of Obama’s agenda. The best they can do is protest the policies and come out with amendments and alternatives that are superior. TIME AND AGAIN THEY HAVE DONE SO! DeMint on the bailout, the Senators as a whole on the stimulus porkfest, now the GOP is putting alternatives on Tax and Budget plans.
So go ahead - What should these conservative Senators be doing that they are not doing ... which would actually make a difference (as opposed to grandstanding)? They are pretty much IMHO doing the best they can in a tough minority situation.
As for Cornyn raising money - yeah, he’s guilty of being a politician. Big whoop. There’s nothing there that any elected official - Reagan, Newt, GWB, *anyone* - didnt do. But he’s not taking AIG exec money then signing off on AIG bonuses like Obama did.
Cornyn isn’t perfect, but outside of Gramm and Tower, he’s the best Senator we’ve had from Texas in a century. Consider that (and if you disagree, go ahead, name a better senator in our lifetimes).
To support my previous point,here is Sen Cornyn’s statement opposing cap-and-trade and Obama’s reckless budget ...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/6313879.html
Last week Congress approved the latest installment of President Obama’s reckless spending plan. The omnibus spending bill added another $410 billion to the taxpayers’ tab, just weeks after approval of a stimulus package that will cost more than $1 trillion, including interest. With this new bill, we have spent more money since Inauguration Day than we have in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and in response to Hurricane Katrina — combined.
Government is growing, but Texas taxpayers are hurting. The Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas estimates that our state could lose nearly 300,000 jobs this year, and that our unemployment rate could reach 8 percent. The stock market lost a quarter of its value in the first two months of this year — further eroding the pensions and savings that support seniors in their retirement. A slowing economy also defers the dreams of our young people who are entering the job market and want to start their own families.
I had hoped that President Obama would send us a budget plan that would hasten our economic recovery — and keep the promises he made last year. I appreciated his pledge to go line by line through the federal budget to eliminate wasteful spending. I welcomed his commitment to eliminate capital gains taxes for new small businesses. And I agreed that we must reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
Yet the president’s spending plan reflects far different priorities that I cannot support. Instead of eliminating wasteful spending, the omnibus bill funded 122 programs we already covered in the stimulus bill. Overall, the president’s $3.6 trillion budget will double the national debt over the next five years, and triple it over the next decade. But the biggest disappointments in his budget are the tax increases. Over the next ten years, the president will raise net taxes by $1.4 trillion, with devastating consequences for job creation and economic growth.
First, President Obama wants to raise taxes on small businesses. Small businesses create two-thirds of the new jobs in our economy, and most pay taxes on their small business income as individuals. Raising taxes on the most successful small businesses will force layoffs or reduce new investment across Texas. And President Obama has now proposed delaying the implementation of his capital gains tax pledge until 2014, while actually raising capital gains taxes over the next several years on many small businesses.
Second, President Obama wants to raise taxes on America’s energy producers. Texans understand that 90 percent of U.S. wells are operated by small and independent businesses, and these wells help reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Yet the president wants to repeal nine oil and gas tax incentives that encourage these entrepreneurs to develop America’s natural resources and create new jobs. And the impact on the consumer could be just as serious. As we witnessed last summer, higher energy costs will drive up prices at the gas pump, at the supermarket and throughout our economy.
Third, President Obama wants to raise taxes through a complicated “cap-and-trade” scheme imported from Europe. “Cap-and-trade” would hit the consumer much like an additional national sales tax on energy. This approach has failed to reduce carbon emissions overseas, but it has succeeded in raising electricity bills across the continent. I share the president’s goal of transitioning to cleaner energy technologies, but we cannot get there by increasing utility bills for every homeowner in the land.
The president’s tax-and-spend extravaganza will delay economic recovery in Texas — and make it harder to address our biggest fiscal challenge.
The federal government has made promises totaling $67 trillion to future beneficiaries of Social Security, Medicare and other entitlement programs. Instead of taking responsibility for this challenge, our government is making more promises it can’t keep, and passing on the largest debt in human history to our children and grandchildren.
Cornyn is a Republican U.S. senator from Texas.
To be quite frank, I rather they do something than nothing at all. With amendments they can spike some portions and force the rats to take positions, especially the “blue dog” scum. Republicans know that the rats will deny them any place on the table, and “conservatives” that stayed home and helped get the rats elected deserve all the blame.
With amendments, the GOP can set a series of minefields and buy time to expose laws and bills for what they are.
As for McCain, he is back to where he likes to be, in front of the camera, rather than leading. I say let him remain in front of the camera and let true patriots continue to expose the rats for what they are, socialist commies.
This isn’t leadership. As I said, this is watered down crap in the hometown newspaper so he can get re-elected:
“I share the president’s goal of transitioning to cleaner energy technologies, but we cannot get there by increasing utility bills for every homeowner in the land.”
Translation: “Here’s what you Texas voters want to hear, but I’ll cave when the time comes so I can stay in the club, because at the core I agree with Bambi.”
He is STRANGELY silent on the national stage on cap and trade. Where is the impassioned speech on the SENATE FLOOR taking the baseball bat to Bambi’s policies?
How about on Meet The Press — a no holds barred in your face denouncement of the budget and cap-and-trade? Would you have me believe that the man couldn’t get an audience for a public bloodletting? I’m sure he could; he doesn’t wnat to rock the boat however. Neither do any of the other so-called “leaders” you mentioned.
Here’s another thing — when the hell is he going to take Snowe, Collins and Specter to the woodshed for selling out? EVER? He controls their re-election funding. Specter’s up next year... Collins in ‘12. What about it John? a LEADER would. Cornyn cares more about the size of the club than its principles though, that much is clear.
Need I remind you that Cornyn voted for the FIRST bailout in spite of many impassioned and angry pleas not to? And then sent out a smarmy letter justifying it?
Need I remind you that Cornyn voted for incompetent tax cheat Geithner to run Treasury?
Sorry, FRiend. That’s not conservative leadership.
By the way, I have told him so, on more than one occasion. (or at least I’ve told the interns that answer his fax machine... I wonder if any of it ever gets through to the man himself.)
He run’s high-profile column in one of the largest papers in the state and you call him ‘strangely silent’.
Well, there was a national platform, and Sen Gregg last saturday used that platform to go hammer-and-tong on the same issues of budget and taxes and energy regulation.
“Would you have me believe that the man couldn’t get an audience for a public bloodletting?”
Are you naive? These guys put together press conferences that are ignored, unless they can spin in a bad way for the GOP. This is reality. The media will ONLY report it if it HURTS THE GOP. Dont let liberal MSM spin fool you. They are spinning you - and it shows.
“I rather they do something than nothing at all. With amendments they can spike some portions and force the rats to take positions, especially the “blue dog” scum. Republicans know that the rats will deny them any place on the table, and “conservatives” that stayed home and helped get the rats elected deserve all the blame.
With amendments, the GOP can set a series of minefields and buy time to expose laws and bills for what they are.”
Exactly. Well said. That’s about all they can do at this point.
Amendments can’t fix this budget.
The current budget proposed by Zero has to be repudiated, ridiculed and totally trashed and replaced by something that resembles sanity.
This is a hole that the GOP can drive a truck through.
But they are just content to be a-holes.
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