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Newt Gingrich: A Single Nuke Could Destroy America
News Max ^ | March 30, 2009 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 03/30/2009 10:21:04 AM PDT by Pellegrino

Newt's warning about N.Korea's threatened "satellite" launch and "criminal negligence" of Obama's dismantling and defunding of our missile defense systems.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; gingrich; jihadinamerica; nationalsecurity; newt; newtgingrich; nuclear; nuclearbomb; nuke; wmds
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To: steve-b
If Newt can't make his blitherings consistent with reality, is it too much to ask that he at least make them internally consistent with themselves?

Indeed. We've fired dozens if not hundreds of nukes of every size from popgun to the granddaddy Hydrogen variety. Why haven't we disappeared into the mists of time with those? Oh, because they didn't hit population?

IMHO, we could lose any single major population center and survive fine, including my home here in Miami, FL. Except for the cold implacable rage that would spring from such an incident and result in a thermonuclear response never before seen in history, I think the country would soldier on. Well, I should temper my opinion on the national response as to who occupies the White House and Congress.

161 posted on 03/30/2009 7:30:39 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; bill1952

But the problem with Newt is he could sell out on anything, at anytime, if it suited his personal agenda.

Newt is compromised, through and through.


162 posted on 03/30/2009 7:33:46 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: brownsfan
I lost it for Newt when I saw a video of him in Mexico speaking fluent spanish and promising the piggy bank to Mexican citizens.

Besides......Newts a CFR member with a globalist agenda.

Sorry, no Newt for Servantboy.

163 posted on 03/30/2009 7:48:05 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: FreeReign

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu9IJftFJgQcBNNdXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMzZqbnVkBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0gyOThfMTM0/SIG=1254iu3e8/EXP=1238552457/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_bomb
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“The electromagnetic pulse was first observed during high-altitude nuclear weapon detonations.

Electromagnetic weapons are still mostly classified and research surrounding them is highly secret. Military speculators and experts generally think that E-bombs use explosively pumped flux compression generator technology as their power source, though a relatively small (10 kt) nuclear bomb, exploded between 30 and 300 miles in the atmosphere could send out enough power to damage electronics from coast to coast in the US. The US Army Corps of Engineers issued a publicly available pamphlet in the late 1990s that discusses in detail how to harden a facility against “HEMP” - high frequency electromagnetic pulse. It describes how water pipes, antennas, electrical lines, and windows allow EMP to enter a building.”
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I know,,,it’s wiki,,,but,,,

Seems to me that the “Range” is a problem here,,,

How many countries could build/launch it,,,then,,,

When the “Boomers” lose all contact with CONUS/POTUS,,,?

Baaad things happen...;0)


164 posted on 03/30/2009 7:52:01 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I never liked him, and don’t know if i trust him, but to be perfectly honest, over the past 8 years, i have come to respect his opinion has one of the few rational conservatives around that tends to have a compelling and convincing argument on most issues. maybe its because he is out of office now and his opinions don’t sound as partisan or legislatively partisan. I don’t know if this makes sense or not, but...its how i feel. When he comes on the radio, i always listen to him because you always get pure red meat. With that said, i would never vote him for president because he doesn’t have the general presidential package.


165 posted on 03/30/2009 8:07:52 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: brownsfan

Newt did fall for the global warming propaganda. I turned away at that point. He harmed himself, but I think that is all. No politician, or person, is perfect.

Newt lead Republicans to control of the House of Representatives, when it seemed like Republicans were an eternal minority, and could never gain control. He cut the growth of federal spending that gave us the surplus that Democrats claim as Clinton’s accomplishment.

This article is just another case where Newt is challenging liberal policies. He is articulate, aggressive, and generally right. We are very fortunate to have him on our side, and we should be on his side whenever he is right.

We can’t afford petty vendettas against Republicans. That is part of the reason we lost the House, Senate, and Presidency. Yes, we can insist that Republicans be conservative. But I don’t see that Newt is off-base on this article. Can you?


166 posted on 03/30/2009 8:23:55 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Am I a socialist? I'm stunned you should ask. Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: mojitojoe

I agree also! If a person doesn’t promote themselves to some degree, no one will know they exist! Almost any one, except Christ has a shadow or two in thier past. Newt has done some wrongs, as well, but I respect his intelligence. He is FAR smarter than the man in the WH.


167 posted on 03/30/2009 8:35:00 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Vaquero

Amen. I listen to Newt because he’s a history professor, and has the ability to articulate conservative ideas. I disrespect Newt for his obvious narcissistic flaws. When I heard him concede the global warming premise by suggesting that the private sector could better deal with the problem than the government, I wrote him off. F5*& him. Politician. We need to get completely rid of professional politicians.


168 posted on 03/30/2009 8:46:29 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: Ol Rob

I don’t have the answer to the troll problem either, but sometimes I think that if there was a real crisis, civil war, revolution there are some folks on here who wouldn’t want ANYONE on thier side!LOL


169 posted on 03/30/2009 8:47:05 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Pellegrino

50% of the Rebublican congress are leftist trolls.


170 posted on 03/30/2009 8:58:08 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: DBrow
I had been under the impression that a rather small nuke could EMP about a third of the US, but would need to be detonated near the atmosphere. The worry was a rouge missile from a shrimp boat or something, detonating above Earth near the atmosphere. The way it was described to me, no vehicle with an electronic ignition system would work after such an attack. I have no idea if this is scientifically accurate.
171 posted on 03/30/2009 9:03:48 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: Tolik

Stand Alone.


172 posted on 03/30/2009 9:05:07 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

What’s worse: An opportunistic politician or a RINO? Wait, or is it the other way around? Oh wait, a Rino or a .... mmmmmm , oh no.


173 posted on 03/30/2009 9:07:03 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: Publius6961

1998 12 valve cummins diesel. Immune.


174 posted on 03/30/2009 9:20:19 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: ExSoldier

We haven’t detonated them near the atmosphere.


175 posted on 03/30/2009 9:28:09 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: genetic homophobe

Not all were subterranean explosions. If you’ll recall there were many during the 50’s that involved troops in the open and phony towns pasted together to measure the effects of over pressure and to create the effective downwind drift templates they taught me when I attended the US Army School of Nuclear, Biological & Chemical warfare back in the 1980s.


176 posted on 03/30/2009 9:57:10 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: 444Flyer

Public posture may not resemble what’s going on behind the scenes, perhaps ?


177 posted on 03/30/2009 10:48:27 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: ChessExpert

“We can’t afford petty vendettas against Republicans. That is part of the reason we lost the House, Senate, and Presidency.”

No, you’re 100% wrong.

We lost because we abandoned principles. A politician like Newt would sell out on any principle, if it would advance his personal agenda.

With Obama’s grab for power and the resulting fascist structure of our government, people like Newt, whether they’re running for office or advocating policy, would only add to the problem.

In 2012 we’re going to need a president who would be willing to diminish federal control—to break the chains Obama has placed on the private sector. People like Newt, driven by personal ambition, would not let go of that power.

I am confident Palin would be willing to forego personal power in order to reestablish liberty. There must be others out there like her.


178 posted on 03/31/2009 4:43:34 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: genetic homophobe

Some electronic ignitions can be disabled by just the right pulse, and yes, a fairly low-yield nuke can cause significant EMP pulses.

There are a number of ifs and conditions. The nuke must have the right characteristics, so you’d need lots of expertise in getting the thing right, or a lot of luck. Placement is critical, you’d need the correct altitude, so you’d need to be very confident of your yield and temperature and burn rate beforehand. To get it right would mean plenty of experience burning pits, to know your process gets the right device.

Not getting it right would still give you an EMP pulse, but maybe not as damaging as you want.

And the retaliatory strike would be severe, the military stuff to do that is hardened against EMP just for that reason.

The ignition issue is complex in that the type of ignition and local shielding would need to be known. I don’t know that the military bothers to harden their vehicles (I do EMP hardening analyses, but for bigger structures and vessels) but that will be a clue as to the size of the threat and what to do about it.

Part of warfare is convincing your opponent that your weaponry is superior and that there is no way your enemy can defend against it. Nuclear winter, everyone dies from fallout, no point in shelters, and “EMP will zap everything” are examples (not that there is not some truth to elements of this).

In VN, there were people who planted doctored ammo, designed to blow up. This was coupled with news stories about poorly constructed AKs, bad steel being the given cause. So when you heard of someone’s rifle blowing up and hurting people, those news stories would come to mind. And there are constant stories about how our equipment does not work, cannot work, will be ineffective, and so forth.

It’s easier for the Russians to convince us that a missile shield in Europe won’t work than it is to design a counter for one, and the same is true for a “small country” with one rocket and one (maybe) nuke- if they can get us to surrender before they launch, they’ve saved a few billion in development cost.


179 posted on 03/31/2009 4:51:14 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Pellegrino

An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is a byproduct of detonating [bomb above the Earth’s atmosphere. When a nuclear weapon is detonated in space, the gamma rays emitted trigger a massive electrical disturbance in the upper atmosphere. Moving at the speed of light, this overload will short out all electrical equipment, power grids and delicate electronics on the Earth’s surface. In fact, it would take only one to three weapons exploding above the continental United States to wipe out our entire grid and transportation network. It might take years to recover from, if ever.]

The fool politicians and democrats and rinos do not care at all. They just continue to destroy all America by their stupidity and fool Americans support the idiots in government.
What can be said?
The fools who voted and support the democrats and rinos continue to sow the wind and will reap the whirlwind of God’s anger in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The wrath of the Lamb is coming and who shall be able to stand.
Bury your dead.


180 posted on 03/31/2009 5:13:51 AM PDT by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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