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Riordan slams ballot measures
SacBee: Capitol Alert ^ | 3/29/9 | Dan Smith

Posted on 03/29/2009 9:32:57 AM PDT by SmithL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger can't be happy that the ballot measures he and leading Democrats are pushing for the May 19 special election took a gut punch in this morning's Los AngelesTimes from former LA Mayor Richard Riordan.

Titled "California's May ballot scam," Riordan's op-ed says the Republican governor and legislative backers of the measures could challenge Bernie Madoff for "swindler of the year."

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But Riordan says both parties are blindly supporting the approach. ..."

And to my conservative friends: Will you be intimidated into voting for something you know is wrong? You should be against increases in taxes, not for ideological reasons but because they will be economically disastrous for California. The rich (and I am one of them) already have their mansions, airplanes and yachts. There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with increasing their taxes. But if the burden becomes too great, the rich will simply take their money (and the taxes they pay and the jobs they create) and move elsewhere. And it is the poor who will be hurt by such an exodus.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cagop; calinitiatives; goldenstate; losangeles; mayor; prop1abcdef; riordan; specialelection; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 03/29/2009 9:32:58 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Liberals attacking liberals...spare me the drama.


2 posted on 03/29/2009 9:37:06 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: SmithL

It’s a sad day when RINO Riordan, who has always been interchangeable with the Democrats, slams Arnie for being too far to the left.


3 posted on 03/29/2009 9:37:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SmithL
Personally, I think it IS morally wrong to tax the "rich" at a greater rate than anyone else. That, by definition, is redistribution of wealth.

The "rich" already pay more taxes---they buy more, and just about anything anyone buys is taxed these days.

4 posted on 03/29/2009 9:39:28 AM PDT by basil ( It's time to eliminate all "Gun Free Zones")
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To: SmithL

When Rinos attack Rinos.. OH the HughManity of it All!! (and me out of beer and popcorn)


5 posted on 03/29/2009 9:53:58 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: SmithL

Arnold is a total fraud. He makes Gray Davis look like an honest man. Hell, he even makes the crooks running the state legislature look honest. These ballot measures are going down to defeat as should every legislator who voted in favor of this phony budget.


6 posted on 03/29/2009 9:58:10 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: CdMGuy

In hindsight, it would have been better for Davis to remain or be replaced by another rat. The problem with RINOs is the total dilution of the Republican brand. Swing voters have no reason to vote for Republicans. Arnold started reasonably well. He has been a disaster since he lost the battle with the unions in 2006. Fighting unions should not be seen as a short term skirmish. It is an all out war that must be waged in perpetuity.


7 posted on 03/29/2009 10:03:23 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: SmithL

Meanwhile at the LAT .. stampede time..

Republicans run from, not on, Schwarzenegger’s record
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-antiarnold29-2009mar29,0,7401039.story

For years, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has treated fellow Republicans with a combination of indifference and thinly veiled contempt.

Now, as they vie to succeed him in 2010, the party’s two leading candidates for governor are responding in similar fashion.

How about that new party brand now, the one aRnie branded his Trojan Horse with? The $ stands for $tampede


8 posted on 03/29/2009 10:12:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: businessprofessor; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie
. Arnold started reasonably well. He has been a disaster since he lost the battle with the unions in 2006.

I'm sorry -- but that is just false. Why people continue to post this propaganda without looking at the facts is beyond me.

Arnold's first act was to kill a spending cap bill. He then went on to borrow $15 billion dollars ($7 billion more than Gray Davis wanted). He publicly opposed a number of high profile Republican initiatives, dissing the Republicans in the process. He then pushed a 25 MILLION acre land grab via the Sierra Nevada Conservancy, something even Gray Davis vetoed. His environmental platform, made public during the Recall election, laid out the crazed Global Warming and energy regulation he is foisting on the State -- and the country. HERE is a list of some of the things he had done a full year before the 2006 special election.

Arnold's propaganda machine, with the help of liberals in the MSM, have tried to say that Arnold only moved "leftward" after his propositions didn't pass in 2006 (propositions that did not attempt to address any of the real problems in the state). And you continue to repeat the mantra. Please... do some homework.

10 posted on 03/29/2009 11:20:53 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: businessprofessor; calcowgirl
Head, meet vise.
11 posted on 03/29/2009 11:50:50 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: calcowgirl
I'm sorry -- but that is just false. Why people continue to post this propaganda without looking at the facts is beyond me.

I will restate my assertion. His first term was less disasterous than his second term. He did have some reasonable policies in his first term. On the environment, he has been a disaster from the beginning.

12 posted on 03/29/2009 12:50:35 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor; Carry_Okie; Amerigomag
I will restate my assertion. His first term was less disasterous than his second term. He did have some reasonable policies in his first term. On the environment, he has been a disaster from the beginning.

Gray Davis had some reasonable policies, too. But that doesn't mean he performed "reasonably well" (as you asserted of Arnold). Arnold ran as a Republican Governor who would be fiscally responsible and clean up Sacramento. He has been neither.

You can restate the unsupported assertion all you want, t doesn't make it true. And don't expect it to go unchallenged. I have given you a long list of the disastrous policies the Austrian promoted. Facts speak for themselves.

13 posted on 03/29/2009 1:01:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: businessprofessor
There just isn't much wiggle room in a vise.
14 posted on 03/29/2009 1:17:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: Carry_Okie; businessprofessor
Why do these disallusioned Republicans keep comming back to FR in an attempt to salavage their pride?

Many partisans made a lazy, ignorant and expedient decision when they voted for the Austrian, even in 2003. No amount of faint praise is going to turn a mental fart into intellectual perfume.

15 posted on 03/29/2009 3:30:08 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
No amount of faint praise is going to turn a mental fart into intellectual perfume.

This isn't a matter of air pollution; it's solid waste: a gift that keeps on giving and doesn't drift away.

16 posted on 03/29/2009 3:34:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: Amerigomag
Many partisans made a lazy, ignorant and expedient decision when they voted for the Austrian, even in 2003. No amount of faint praise is going to turn a mental fart into intellectual perfume.

The Austrian tricked most Republicans. He campaigned as a reasonable conservative. When it appeared that the true conservative could not win, most Republicans supported the Austrian.

I do not dispute that the Austrian has been a disaster, especially in his second term. The longer he governs, the worse he becomes. I would prefer a rat in office because he could be opposed easier.

17 posted on 03/29/2009 4:02:56 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Carry_Okie

I was thinking more like a vice-grip pliars!!!


18 posted on 03/29/2009 5:07:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism smells like BO!!!)
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To: businessprofessor; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; Amerigomag
"Fighting unions should not be seen as a short term skirmish."

That steroidal, dope smokin, woman assulting, doofus got right up in their faces by telling the Nurses Union he was going "to kick their butts!"

Most union members are by nature liberal and thus very emotionally driven on most issues. Standing together against a bully is one of their core beliefs and Schwartzenstupid couldn't even figure out how he beat himself and hurt everyone with such a glaring blunder!!!

You're right about one thing. In hindsight we'd have been way better of with the Davis doofus, but we were still right to Recall him. Our mistake, even here on FR by far too many, was to immediately and permanently give up on Tom McClintock without even giving him a righteous chance!!!

It's going to take decades to recover from a blunder like that and the Republican Party has nearly received a mortal wound in CA because of it!!! How's everything in colorful Colorado and your rotten liberal RINO's???

19 posted on 03/29/2009 5:22:25 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism smells like BO!!!)
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To: businessprofessor
The Austrian tricked most Republicans.

Not this one. I've been following the crooks like the people who sponsored Arnold for over a decade. It's a good thread BTW, because it provided some foundational information about the NRDC that became the article to which you were referred on the Bilbray thread first.

Unfortunately, this is not a matter of common knowledge.

20 posted on 03/29/2009 6:13:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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