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With "liberal" out, what's left? Progressive
Seattle Times online ^ | 3/29/09 | Frank Greve

Posted on 03/29/2009 7:35:34 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

WASHINGTON — About as many left-of-center political groups in the nation's capital call themselves liberals these days as say they're Whigs. Instead, they call themselves "progressives."

What progressive means is "pretty murky," political historian Alan Brinkley said. Still, murky is an improvement over "liberal," a mainstream term in the 1960s that conservatives reduced to a dirty word in the 1980s.

Pollsters said the shift to "progressive" sheds the onus of the liberal label and enables left-of-center groups and candidates to fight again.

Although the term "progressive" has a distinguished early-20th-century history that includes reformers Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, uncertainty about what it means today works in favor of erstwhile liberals.

Mary Helms, 54, whose family raises peanuts and cotton in Dothan, Ala., said she knew what a liberal was: "Someone who doesn't have very good morals."

And a progressive? "I don't really know anyone who says he's a progressive," Helms said. So she has nothing against them.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: leftists; liberalprogressivism; progressives; toemahto; toemayto
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Whatever they call themselves, they're bad for America.
1 posted on 03/29/2009 7:35:34 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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neatly leaving out socialist
2 posted on 03/29/2009 7:36:54 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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You can call a rat a swan, but it is still a rat.


3 posted on 03/29/2009 7:37:04 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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..."liberal," a mainstream term in the 1960s that conservatives reduced to a dirty word...

It wasn't us who made "liberal" a dirty word. It was the results of liberal policies that made it a dirty word.
4 posted on 03/29/2009 7:38:17 AM PDT by wolfpat (Revolt, and re-establish the Constitution as the law of the land!)
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“distinguished early-20th-century history that includes reformers Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson”

What’s distinguished about the damaging policies these men propagated?


5 posted on 03/29/2009 7:38:25 AM PDT by Borges
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(Truth in advertising) Whatever they choose, just put the word “thieving” in front of it.


6 posted on 03/29/2009 7:39:48 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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“Progressive” = COMMUNIST


7 posted on 03/29/2009 7:39:48 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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“Progressive” was a term the Communists used to describe themselves many years ago.


8 posted on 03/29/2009 7:40:46 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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“dont tell me that words dont have meaning” BO

And yes...Thus the never ending quest to rename, and thus redefine, anything that holds the socialists back...


9 posted on 03/29/2009 7:40:51 AM PDT by Crim
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changing the name changes the perception of those who will fall for anything. “Progressive” sounds like “forward thinking”, a good thing, which it isn’t in this usage.


10 posted on 03/29/2009 7:41:01 AM PDT by uncitizen
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. Still, murky is an improvement over "liberal," a mainstream term in the 1960s that conservatives reduced to a dirty word in the 1980s.

Liberal was a dirty word well before the 1980s.

11 posted on 03/29/2009 7:41:15 AM PDT by Spirochete
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Use their secret-no so secret identity: Socialist/Marxist.


12 posted on 03/29/2009 7:41:34 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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Do you remember when “Blue” states were Republican, and “Red” states were DemonRats? The media changed the nomenclature because it reminded people that the Rats were Commies!


13 posted on 03/29/2009 7:42:56 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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They are all Statists (credit to Mark Levin). That's what I am going to call them from now on, since that is who they are. They love big government over the individual to be free. They love tyranny.

And for neo-conservatives, moderates, independants--they are neo-Statists. They also love big government against the individual, but to a lesser extent.

The Conservative should fight them both back. This is the defining time.

Freedom or tyranny? If America goes into the socialist rout, if government is allowed to become a tyranny, where is there left to go? I choose to fight for freedom.

14 posted on 03/29/2009 7:43:51 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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I’ve noticed they try and use this label. I can’t imagine something more ironic, however, than a bunch of losers adopting the failed policies of the 60’s and 70’s calling themselves “progressives”. “Regressives” would be more accurate.


15 posted on 03/29/2009 7:45:10 AM PDT by Scutter
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Be nice if we could connect ‘progressive’ to their true historical baggage such as being racist and in favor of eugenics.


16 posted on 03/29/2009 7:45:44 AM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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Socialism is NOT “Progress”!

And contrary to Obama’s assertions earlier this week capitalism is NOT “chaotic and unforgiving”!


17 posted on 03/29/2009 7:46:07 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: Scutter

How ‘bout “reprobates”!!!!


18 posted on 03/29/2009 7:46:32 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: G Larry

Obama and his socialism is what’s chaotic and unforgiving.


19 posted on 03/29/2009 7:47:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Trotskyites, Maoists, Marxists, Socialists, Fascists, Jacobins, Shining Path...Take your pick.


20 posted on 03/29/2009 7:49:18 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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