Posted on 03/27/2009 8:41:35 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
The Vatican has dismissed as a heretic a mystical medieval monk apparently cited by Barack Obama as a moral authority and visionary.
According to Father Raniero Cantalamessa, preacher to the Pontifical Household, the US President referred in campaign speeches to Gioacchino da Fiore, or Joachim of Fiore, as a ''master of contemporary civilisation'' who had sought to create a better world. Drawing on the Book of Revelation, Gioacchino envisaged a "new age of the Holy Spirit" in which the Church hierarchy would cease to exist and Christians would unite with infidels in an "Order of the Just".
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He said that Mr Obama had quoted Gioacchino three times during his Presidential campaign, thus "reviving interest in his doctrines", not least on the internet. But Gioacchino's theory that a "third age" would follow that of God the Father in the Old Testament and Jesus Christ in the New Testament was heretical, because it "strikes at the heart" of Christian belief in the Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Quoting the prophet Isaiah, St Matthew and St Paul, he said the accepted Christian doctrine was that the Holy Spirit existed at the same time as the period of the Old and New Testaments, inspiring both the ancient prophets and Jesus Christ.
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“Obama love’s Heretics” there fixed the title!
Obama is about tearing down every underlying foundational value (including our spiritual ones) that our liberty and republic rests upon. He is an abject marxist ideolog.
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS
NOW WE KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES
OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING
Isn’t this a muslim view also? Total control.
More Communist doublethink from O’Bambi!
Sounds like da Fiore was a modalist.
Too bad Christianity isn’t more reactionary like Islam.
Obama wouldn’t be anywhere near the whitehouse today if it was, and they’d still be putting out the fires from the things Obama and his Life long friend and mentor have said.
Of course O agrees. He thinks he's the leader of that Third Age.
With that logic, Obama can hail al Qaeda’s Zawahiri when he pushes for National Healthcare.
Maybe he IS THE anti-christ! And here I thought it was Tony Blair.
Figured Obama would love heretics: if Obama were a Christian, he too would be a heretic.
I thought Putin was, and Iran's Amadjihadi thinks he is.
I bet the NYT and all the MSM will get this news out fast./s
Yep. Bill Clinton is only a false Antichrist...Obama is the real thing.
Many candidates, indeed. But I don’t think that A-mad thinks he is. he’s waiting for the Maidi (sp)
I have always thought that BHO was the Muslim equivalent of a 'Manchurian Candidate'.
Tell Obama that Joachim of Fiore was a white man with blue eyes and he’ll stop quoting him.
Obama is truly the devil’s creation.
Has anyone found any of the speeches in question? This seems a little strange -- why would any candidate be reopening 13th century Catholic theological disputes?
The very best analysis of the influence of John of Flora is contained in the book, The New Science of Politics by Eric Voegelin (University of Chicago). Voegelin was one of the greatest, if not the greatest conservative scholar of the 20th century. He defines John of Flora’s thinking as a very dangerous form of Gnosticism, and he traces the origins of modern totolitarian creeds to him, creeds such as Marxism, National Socialism, Fascism and sectarian Liberalism. If Barrack Obama is a deciple of this man, then we are in more trouble than we think. The essential characteristic of Gnostic creeds to the beief held by a self appointed ‘Elect’ in dreamworld detached from the reality of the human condition.
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