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NFL player pulled over outside hospital while rushing to be with dying relative
The Dallas Morning News ^ | Thursday, March 26, 2009 | STEVE THOMPSON and TANYA EISERER

Posted on 03/26/2009 7:44:00 AM PDT by texan75010

As he rushed his family to the hospital, 26-year-old NFL running back Ryan Moats rolled through a red light. A Dallas police officer pulled their SUV over outside the emergency room.

Moats and his wife explained that her mother was dying inside the hospital.

"You really want to go through this right now?" Moats pleaded. "My mother-in-law is dying. Right now!"

The officer, 25-year-old Robert Powell, was unmoved. He spent long minutes writing Moats a ticket and threatened him with arrest.

"I can screw you over," the officer told Moats. "I'd rather not do that."

The scene last week, captured by a dashboard video camera, prompted apologies and the promise of an investigation from Dallas police officials Wednesday.

"There were some things that were said that were disturbing, to say the least," said Lt. Andy Harvey, a police spokesman.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: badseedleo; dallas; donutwatch; jbt
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To: KrisKrinkle
“Lots of people here don’t bother to read before they post.”

Too many people here don’t bother to read before they post.

Their posts too often reflect badly on FR.


You beat me to it!

So thank you for stating what needed to be said!
121 posted on 03/26/2009 9:09:38 AM PDT by TexanByBirth (Obama should quit judging the 48% that did not vote for him by the mental capacity of those that did)
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To: toomuchcoffee

Have you ever heard of something called “common sense”?


122 posted on 03/26/2009 9:10:09 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: ßuddaßudd
I’m entitled to my opinion just as you.

Of course you are. But it's obvious that your opinion reflects either a callous lack of humanity or a failure to read the article.

123 posted on 03/26/2009 9:12:54 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: US_MilitaryRules
a lot of us are.

nice hijack, though.

124 posted on 03/26/2009 9:15:11 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: ßuddaßudd

Did you post this before reading past the first line of the article?

I hope you’re never in a situation where someone has to make a judgment call on your behalf.


125 posted on 03/26/2009 9:15:13 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: ßuddaßudd
Yes, I read the article. He was speeding. Dont get caught up in the emotions of the situation.

Uhhh...I just reread the article, and it doesn't mention speeding. I'd assume maybe he did. But the article mentions rolling through a red light.

As far as the emotions of the situation goes.

Yes we had a person who rolled through a red light.

We also had a cop acting like an absolute A$$.

And you seem to be covering for the A$$.

126 posted on 03/26/2009 9:17:33 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: ßuddaßudd

Are you pro-life at all? His mother-in-law died in that hospital because he was held outside the hospital, being lectured by a cop with no common sense.

He stopped at the red light, had his hazards on, communicated with the car at the cross street, who waved him through the intersection. I’d say he exercised appropriate caution.

Get back to me on this red light thing if you’re ever in an emergency situation. You can’t predict it - you can only be ready when the unexpected happens.

Sheesh.


127 posted on 03/26/2009 9:18:24 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: toomuchcoffee
The guy ran a light. I got no pity.

The guy ran a light. I got no pity_____.(Fill in the blank)

128 posted on 03/26/2009 9:21:28 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: ßuddaßudd
No, he wasn't speeding. He was pulled over for rolling through a red light.

Thanks for proving you didn't read the article.

129 posted on 03/26/2009 9:24:33 AM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: ßuddaßudd
You are making assumptions and are wrong.

About what? That you make alot of money, or the friends you buy are REEEEAALL expensive?

130 posted on 03/26/2009 9:26:48 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: xp38

It is called “necessity”

Where violating law “A” is necesary to prevent some overwhelming public harm or the violation of law “B”.

Think of the ticking time bomb scenario. HOWEVER that is a defense, not a free license.

It is a defense to be raised IN court. IOW “Officer please give me the ticket as fast as possible so I can go to my dying relative’s bedside.” It is not an excuse to act nutty.

So there is a valid legal defense to running the light.

In this case 1. the officer was a jerk, and 2. the NFL player was equally a jerk for assuming he should not get the ticket.

The NFL person should have accepted the ticket in order to get there asap and then explained it to the judge under “necessity.”

The problem is these tickets are not about justice, they are aobut revenue and most judges are safety nazis. (its for yer owwwn good, OBEY!)


131 posted on 03/26/2009 9:29:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: texan75010

This makes me so DAMN MAD!!!!!!!


132 posted on 03/26/2009 9:32:49 AM PDT by peggybac ("A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own.")
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To: wardaddy

“I also knew some good local cops too...back before all that SWAT stuff...he coached my Dixie Youth ballteam and now his boy is a freeper.”

I resemble that remark.

“It’s a tough job that sometimes attracts mean angry resentful folks...or even criminals.”

And in some cases creates mean, angry, resentful folks...and criminals.


133 posted on 03/26/2009 9:34:07 AM PDT by Yudan (Living comes much easier once we admit we're dying.)
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To: texan75010

The officer should be doing stable duty with a shovel in hand.


134 posted on 03/26/2009 9:38:05 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Dan Middleton; mountn man; bootless; Arguendo

Speeding, red light, same difference.
Are you saying you want the cop to be the judge and jury right there on the scene?
So Im the bad guy for wanting due process of the laws. So be it...


135 posted on 03/26/2009 9:38:33 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Puppage
"How is the cop supposed to know that this isn't just another in a long line of excuses?"

He was cited for running a red light, not reckless op or DUI. my guess is no other cars were coming or there was a close call with other vehicles.

Sounds like a money stop to me, if getting the ticket money is more important than getting to the side of a dying loved one then OK. However I think you will find few to back up such an idea.

136 posted on 03/26/2009 9:38:50 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (will work for bailout bonus.... Twitter: maddawggmorgan)
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To: thefactor

lol.


137 posted on 03/26/2009 9:41:54 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules ("We live in an amazing, amazing world, and it's wasted on the crappiest generation of spoiled idiots)
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To: ßuddaßudd
"Are you saying you want the cop to be the judge and jury right there on the scene?"

I want the cop to use some judgment. There's a difference.

"So Im the bad guy for wanting due process of the laws. So be it..."

You are the bad guy for having no compassion or humanity and putting the letter of the law above the spirit, Inspector Javert. Mr. Moats was BEGGING for due process of law; he wanted the officer to write him the ticket and get it over with so he could attend to more important matters. Instead, the officer chose to be a scumbag by lecturing him and intentionally wasting time.

138 posted on 03/26/2009 9:46:35 AM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: ßuddaßudd; Dan Middleton; bootless; Arguendo
Speeding, red light, same difference. Are you saying you want the cop to be the judge and jury right there on the scene? So Im the bad guy for wanting due process of the laws. So be it...

Wow NO discernment or compassion.

You sure you're not a liberal?

139 posted on 03/26/2009 9:51:18 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Dutchboy88
you are welcome to side with the athlete. I would still side with the law enforcement men/women because I know how difficult it is to go out there and have folks shooting at you, land mines set in marijuana patches, punk kids spitting on you, and smart aleck celebrities saying the same things this guy said. But, I did think.
I'll cut the cop some slack on the issue of the "big deal jock" just as soon as I find out that the cop even knew he was a professional athlete. Which is a fact not in evidence on this thread. All we know about that is that the headline identifies the driver that way - and we immediately understand that that "angle" promotes the publicity value of the story to the newspaper. Otherwise, the story conceivably might have fallen on the "cutting room floor."

I'm also not offended that the Moats family wonders out loud about racism. Just how much of a jerk do you think you can be to any black without making them wonder about that? By the time the officials came out of the hospital to back up Ryan Moats' story it was time and past time for this cop to cut his losses. Even if Ryan Moats somehow (how?) knew that it wasn't racial, the cop was just begging for the subject to be raised.

We whites have enough on our plate, without somebody behaving like that and expecting us to back him up. No thanks, I'll pass.


140 posted on 03/26/2009 9:54:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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