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'Great Escape' PoWs remember comrades... and boo 'silly' Steve McQueen
Times Online ^ | 03/25/09 | Fran Yeoman

Posted on 03/26/2009 5:49:43 AM PDT by DFG

It was film night in Stalag Luft III and the dwindling band of surviving PoWs was marking the 65th anniversary of the daring breakout by watching The Great Escape. Even though this is Hollywood’s celebration of their story and ensured their enduring fame, it wasn’t the Nazis they booed — it was Steve McQueen and his motorbike.

“We were not impressed when that film came out,” said Reginald Cleaver, 86, a flight engineer who had been shot down over the Netherlands and who helped to make disguises for the escape. “The bits about the way the tunnel was dug and how things started was quite accurate, but the later bits were nonsense.

“The Americans played no part in the escape. To have Americans riding motorbikes was ridiculous.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


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To: Mr Rogers

Baloney. They had Neville Chamberlain in office, and were a bunch of ‘head-in-the-sand’ wusses whose unique advantage against Hitler was being across a body of water. Otherwise, they would have gone down as meekly as France. They hid inside while Germans bombed the hell out of their cities from the air, only taking time for an occasional glance over their shoulders to the west to see if those ships from America were anywhere close to the horizon yet. Gimme a break.

And today, Britain is a bunch of weak wusses who have allowed the Muslims to once again put them in jeopardy, where once again we will likely have to come and bail them out. Your lack of knowledge and perspective ‘is obscene’.


21 posted on 03/26/2009 6:31:41 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: raptor29

You are one amazing stupid person. Obama supporter, I presume?


22 posted on 03/26/2009 6:36:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: Durus

I don’t have any proof. That is just what is stated in the IMDB trivia section for the movie.


23 posted on 03/26/2009 6:38:51 AM PDT by DFG
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To: Condor51
Bite me Limey. If it wasn't for us Americans, Stalag Luft III would have been in Sheffield, England.

Over 150 British soldiers have died in Afghanistan alone since 9/11, simply because the Brits stood with the Americans.

Would you like to make these comments directly to the mothers of those young men?

Your comments are graceless and disgusting.

24 posted on 03/26/2009 6:40:49 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: agere_contra

Please send back the $34+ Billion that we gave to your country. I think that would be close to a half trillion in today’s dollars. The blood we spilled to save your hides is priceless.


25 posted on 03/26/2009 6:40:58 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
“I know a Limey when I hear one.”
Go back and REread my post.

“The sound of a vertical twin is like nothing else”
True, However the sound of a 360 twin is one heck of a lot different from 180 degree twin. Most (not all) British twins were 360 and most(not all) Japanese twins were 180
Big difference.
But I know, everyone is an expert.
Btit bike collector

26 posted on 03/26/2009 6:42:21 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: Mr Rogers

Yeah, Obama supporters are generally found sticking up for the U.S. Military and their historical contributions to the safety of the world. Nice response. Hitler’s tanks roll right into London but for that body of water keeping them from doing so. So pardon me if I don’t attach any great significance to the British being able to hold out longer, even when most of their military supplies were coming from the United States as we risked our asses against the German subs to transport them across the Altantic. And for you to argue in any way that they would have been able to hold out much longer without U.S. involvement is clownish logic. Get a grip. Our military was the singular reason that continent was not overrun by Hitler. Period.


27 posted on 03/26/2009 6:43:42 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: stinkerpot65

Yada, yada, yada.


28 posted on 03/26/2009 6:43:47 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: DFG
Hey it's a great flick - have picked it up on DVD - with an excellent cast and Steve McQueen, whether his character was one-hundred percent fictional or not, was fantastic in it and very quintessentially American. Screenplay by James Clavell BTW, who wrote KING RAT and TAI PAN among other novels and who was himself a prisoner in a Japanese POW camp....

But Garner and McQueen were added for the benefit of American audiences...

29 posted on 03/26/2009 6:45:05 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: raptor29

Really don’t know much history, do you? Others here have said it...you sound like a pompous ass.


30 posted on 03/26/2009 6:45:37 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: SAMWolf; alfa6; PhilDragoo; snippy_about_it

Ping


31 posted on 03/26/2009 6:45:47 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Our Savior who art in Washinton, Hallowed be His name...)
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To: raptor29
And today, Britain is a bunch of weak wusses who have allowed the Muslims to once again put them in jeopardy, where once again we will likely have to come and bail them out.

Would you like to tell that to the parents of the 150 British soldiers who have died in Afghanistan? I'm willing to bet that you've never risked your live in Afghanistan, but you call them "weak wusses"?

Your comments are disgusting.

32 posted on 03/26/2009 6:47:45 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: raptor29

I spent 25 years in the US Air Force. I flew over Iraq with Brits taking full part. I’ve been to Afghanistan, where the Brits are fighting.

In 25 years, I didn’t meet anyone who felt the need to ‘stick up for’ the US military by attacking the British one.


33 posted on 03/26/2009 6:49:38 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: raptor29

Dear God, you are an idiot.

Ever heard of a little thing called the Battle of Britain? Summer of 1940? “Their finest hour” and all that? That was a year and a half before we got into the war.

Could the UK have won WWII if we’d never gotten involved? I don’t know. The point is, they had fought the Nazis to a standstill and kept them off British soil far before we Americans ever declared war on Hitler. And if you think for one second that Winston Churchill and the British of the 1940s would have “gone down as meekly as France,” then truly, your stupidity may not be curable.

}:-)4


34 posted on 03/26/2009 6:51:11 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: Condor51
Yada, yada

As a point of interest, how many times have you risked your life in Afghanistan? Since you call the 150 British soldiers who died there "cowards", you must an expert on courage.

35 posted on 03/26/2009 6:56:06 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Mr Rogers

So we go back to the original post, countering a back-handed slap at “the Americans” not being involved in the ‘Great Escape’, uttered by a British vet. My position was and is correct, that it is getting real old listening to every anti-American, anti-U.S. military statement being made on such a regular basis. This guy’s comment was just more of the same, with the underlying notion being a lack of proper recognition for the U.S. Military’s contribution to WWII. He’s not even alive today but for our military. Which is my original point, his own “escape” was facilitated by our military and our citizenry’s contributions to their war effort.


36 posted on 03/26/2009 7:03:18 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: raptor29
Here is raptor29's idea of a "coward". He left behind a wife and two children.

The British soldier who died in an explosion in Afghanistan was killed days before he was due to return to the UK for a family visit has been named today as Private Peter Cowton, 25, from Basingstoke.

Private Cowton died in Helmand province on Tuesday, the Ministry of Defence said today.

His parents, Karen and Robin Rolfe, said in a statement: "Peter was proud to serve his country."

37 posted on 03/26/2009 7:04:00 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Tupelo
No Limey bike expert, I. But I've owned four of them; three twins and a 441 thumper. Also from my mis-spent youth: a 1960 XK 150 S roadster (the gold head 3.8), a Mk VII sedan 3.4 removed, 3.8 installed), two E Types and a big Healey (oil by the case, governor.) All are gone now but I still have the grease-stained shop books.
38 posted on 03/26/2009 7:04:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: stinkerpot65

A USAF salute to a brave man.


39 posted on 03/26/2009 7:07:31 AM PDT by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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To: stinkerpot65; raptor29
My bet is that raptor29 never committed himself to any potentially life-threatening service in his entire life. No military, no LEO, no fire-fighter.

As for knowledge about WW2, my eight year old has a clearer picture of who did what (not kidding).

40 posted on 03/26/2009 7:08:08 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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