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Drug Agents Raid SF Medical Marijuana Clinic (Haha, DEA thumbs Zero in the eye)
CBS5 ^ | 3/25/09 | Joe Vazquez

Posted on 03/25/2009 11:26:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker

One week after President Barack Obama's top law enforcement official seemed to indicate the feds would no longer raid pot clubs, DEA agents busted a medical marijuana facility in San Francisco Wednesday night.

As agents carried large plastic containers of marijuana plants out of Emmalyn's California Cannabis Clinic at 1597 Howard Street, a small crowd of protesters formed a gauntlet outside the door, booing the agents and chanting, "our medicine is marijuana … listen to Obama!"

DEA spokeswoman Casey McEnry told CBS 5 the documents regarding the raid are sealed, so the DEA was not able to give any details.

"Based on our investigation we believe there are not only violations of federal law, but state law as well," said DEA Special Agent in Charge Anthony D. Williams in a written statement.

Emmalyn's has a provisional permit from the city, according to Eileen Shields, spokesperson for the San Francisco Department of Public Health, which she said is an indication the club is in good standing with city laws.

Brendan Hallanin, the pot club's attorney, said Emmalyn's is in compliance with state and local laws.

"They are well-respected and have a good reputation in the medical marijuana community," said Hallanin, who added the business has never been raided in its five year existence.

Hallanin said the DEA would not tell him why the club was being busted.

"They're going to have a huge fight on their hands if they're arbitrarily busting clubs that are in compliance with state and local laws," said Hallanin.

Kris Hermes, spokesperson for Americans for Safe Access, a national advocacy group for medical marijuana issues, wants the attorney general to explain the DEA's actions.

"We're shocked that after the Attorney General has made repeated statements that raids on California medical cannibis dispensaries would be suspended that we are seeing a continuation of that policy," said Hermes.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bhodoj; bhowod; federalism; marijuana; medical; notfunny; potheads; raid; sanfrancisco; wod
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To: Gator113

DEA thumbs Zero in the eye, here, but Naughty Nancy Pelosi’s still asking for it. (House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that she was standing by her statement that enforcement of some existing immigration laws is “un-American.”) What I’d like to see is one of Cartman’s Serbian Jew Double Bluffs. Exchange addresses.

Please, just once, just for laughs, could we see Drug Enforcement Agency agents swoop into a midwestern meat packer’s break room whilst the Immigration cops simultaneously turn out a nearby meth lab? Split-screen it on YouTube? Hee-larious!


21 posted on 03/26/2009 1:25:53 AM PDT by flowerplough (52% of us with incomes over $200k voted for Obama and 60% of those earning under $30K did, too.)
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To: Mojave

I understand your point, however, the law is written by corrupt men, and it is applied with inequality. I don’t care what it states, I know what is right and what is wrong, and I lead my life according to those values. I do not need the instruction of criminals and tyrants.


22 posted on 03/26/2009 2:55:46 AM PDT by chris37
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To: ari-freedom

Marinol will be able to replace marijuana for nausea control when it’s available as patch or inhaler. Pills aren’t much good if they’re puked up.


23 posted on 03/26/2009 2:56:52 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: GLDNGUN

Firstly, do you need a law to tell you not to speed past a school? What if you struck a child doing that? The sign and the cop mean nothing, think of the life you are endangering, then adjust your speed accordingly.

However, if you choose to ignore an existing law, such as the one I ignore when I occasionally smoke, then don’t get caught!


24 posted on 03/26/2009 2:58:50 AM PDT by chris37
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To: GLDNGUN
And doobies or Marinol is the best medicine we have in these cases?

It was 9 years ago.
My late wife had esophageal cancer. It quickly spread to her stomach. It wasn’t long before eating became painful and I had to feed her primarily through a J-tube. Anything she did eat (very small, well chewed bites, soft food) would come back up because of nausea. She lost weight fast. Anti-nausea pills were tried, but they too came back up. It was suggested she try smoking pot. It worked, and didn’t take much. She was able to hold food down and gained some weight back - until she watched an episode of “Cops” on TV. It showed a pot raid, broken windows, smashed doors and guns. The take was a small bag of pot. She became paranoid and flushed the rest of the pot.
It was back to vomiting several times a day. If she had been able to maintain her weight she might have had a chance of surviving.

25 posted on 03/26/2009 3:21:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Mojave

Agreed.

It looks like the federal behemoth has no — er — “controlling authority”. Look for further discrepancies between what the guys at the top say and what the unelected federal bureaucracies do.

O is not in charge; the entire federal government is running on auto-pilot.


26 posted on 03/26/2009 4:58:52 AM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: LibWhacker

If they haven’t paid in full, these guys should also be indicted for tax evasion.

It would all just be so much more honest for everybody involved if weed was legalized.


27 posted on 03/26/2009 5:03:41 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: GLDNGUN

I think it’s obvious why the left supports state’s rights on this issue. Nevertheless, I agree with them. Except for the clearly enumerated and limited powers granted by the US Constitution, the federal government has absolutely no business telling states what to do within their own borders.


28 posted on 03/26/2009 5:39:44 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: GLDNGUN
And doobies or Marinol is the best medicine we have in these cases?

There are a few other medications for nausea some of them have side effects like they can cause cancer because they are filled with carcinogenics. Another will cause vascular narcoses if the IV blows, and if you take orals they will come back up. If you did not know alcohol is far worse to put in your body then pot. You can OD easy on alcohol but you can not OD from pot. Well that's a lie you can OD one pot all you have to do is smoke 1500 lbs. in 15 minutes they you might OD from the THC, but you would be dead from smoke inhalation. Whoever if you could smoke 1500lbs. of pot in 15 minutes you would be so high you would not care man. Pot has many medical benefits the only problem is that to many Americans hate it when people have to much fun and that is the real reason it is ban. Pot is almost harmless and is also much safer then a Cigarette.

29 posted on 03/26/2009 6:06:52 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE and the death of freedom)
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To: GLDNGUN
"...What makes you think the Mexicans aren't supplying this pot...

The pot in these venues is very high end, oftentimes grown hydroponically with out soil. It is expensive. Mexican pot is super low end, costing about a fifth of this stuff. Also, mexican pot is far less powerful. You will not find mexican pot in these venues. It would be like a Maserati dealer having an old Ford Pinto in his lot next to his other cars.

30 posted on 03/26/2009 8:10:23 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (I just hope CW2 comes before my creaky knees give out completely!)
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To: LibWhacker

Brendan Hallanin, the pot club’s attorney, said Emmalyn’s is in compliance with state and local laws.

Terence’s son, former City DA? no surprise here.

Obama .. sowing the seeds of discord in another community.. and then blowing smoke to cover his own ineptness.


31 posted on 03/26/2009 9:41:17 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: R. Scott

Had she tried Marinol?


32 posted on 03/26/2009 10:01:32 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: I Buried My Guns
The pot in these venues is very high end, oftentimes grown hydroponically with out soil. It is expensive. Mexican pot is super low end, costing about a fifth of this stuff. Also, mexican pot is far less powerful. You will not find mexican pot in these venues. It would be like a Maserati dealer having an old Ford Pinto in his lot next to his other cars.

Wrong. John P. Walters is executive vice president of Hudson Institute and former director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President George W. Bush. He said:

Both U.S. and Mexican officials at all levels know that medical marijuana is an utter fraud used to undermine drug enforcement in the United States. Mexican officials also know (as does the Justice Department) that much of the marijuana sold in the “dispensaries” of California funds the mafias of Mexico.
33 posted on 03/26/2009 10:11:04 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: Total Package
If you did not know alcohol is far worse to put in your body then pot.

Based on? Yes, you can die from alcohol poisoning, but that doesn't mean a small amount on occassion is harmful. And even if alcohol is "far worse" than pot, so what?

Americans hate it when people have to much fun and that is the real reason it is ban. Pot is almost harmless and is also much safer then a Cigarette.

LOL. Oh really? Smoked marijuana contains more than 400 different chemicals, including most of the hazardous chemicals found in tobacco smoke. There are no FDA-approved medications that are smoked. For one thing, smoking is generally a poor way to deliver medicine. It is difficult to administer safe, regulated dosages of medicines in smoked form. Secondly, the harmful chemicals and carcinogens that are byproducts of smoking create entirely new health problems. There are four times the level of tar in a marijuana cigarette, for example, than in a tobacco cigarette.
34 posted on 03/26/2009 10:28:18 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: chris37
Firstly, do you need a law to tell you not to speed past a school?

Sounds like you want your children to live in a world where all drugs are legal and easily available, and there are no speed limits even in front of schools. No thanks.
35 posted on 03/26/2009 10:32:13 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
Feel free to quote a drug warrior; I find that source dubious at best. Also, it defies what I have seen with my own eyes.

Mexican pot is greatly compressed in order to smuggle it in. This pot ends up flat and smashed by the time it gets to the user, and is also oftentimes very stale, as it takes a longer time to get to market, and while in transit is exposed to extremes in temperature and humidity.

This "flatness" cannot be undone. Once it is squished, it remains squished, and it is obvious by its' squishness that it has been compressed. Oh, and it is brown and smells of dirt and sweat.

By abusing the product in this manner, the active ingredient is degraded, thus lowering its' value. Mexican pot producers/smugglers are not concerned about this decrease because their business model values quantity over quality.

Domestic growers have a different business model. They value quality. The pot you get from them is a totally different animal: fluffy, green, and smelling of skunk. To compact and bruise their product would cause a decrease in quality and thus income. Also, compaction is not necessary because it is not smuggled long distances.

Also, unknown to you, their are two different kinds of pot: Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica. The two look very dissimilar. Mexican is always Sativa, because that subspecies thrives in hot, arid environments. A farmer can "broadcast" seeds into his field and know that they will grow with a minimum of care. These plants will produce seeds because the male and female plants interact. Domestic pot tends to be Indica, which prefers a cooler, more temperate environment. Indica suffers in a very hot environment and cannot be grown in most of Mexico. Also, domestic growers strive to produce a seed-free product and will kill the male plants as soon as the display their sex, as the presence of seeds reduces the value of their product. As a result, domestic pot costs MANY TIMES what mexi pot costs.

Because of the factors cited above, it is very easy to tell the difference between the two types of pot by simple visual inspection, and why I consider your thesis ludicrous. (your thesis being "high quality Indica coming from Mexico, sold as medical pot, and thus benefitting drug lords")

To sum up, you may dispute me according to what you have read, but I will dispute YOU based on what I have seen and experienced with my own eyes over the span of 20 years of smoking all types of pot. You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts, and I hope this helps cure you of some of your ignorance.

36 posted on 03/26/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (I just hope CW2 comes before my creaky knees give out completely!)
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To: Total Package
"...Whoever (sic) if you could smoke 1500lbs. of pot in 15 minutes you would be so high you would not care..."

Hey, is that a dare? Don't tempt me!

37 posted on 03/26/2009 10:56:31 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (I just hope CW2 comes before my creaky knees give out completely!)
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To: I Buried My Guns
I hope this helps cure you of some of your ignorance

Yes, I'll take a "drug warrior's" opinion over a pothead any day of the week. It is your ignorance on full display. You write a lengthy essay on all of the "problems" with Mexican pot completely ignoring the fact that many Mexicans grow their dope NORTH of the border to avoid the problems associated with smuggling.

Evidently you want to have it both ways. You want to say "look at all of the problems on the border! It's because of Mexican drug gangs trying to smuggle their dope north!". Then in the next breath you say "Oh, Mexican dope is horrible! Nobody would want to smoke that!" Well, which is it? If nobody would want it, why is there such a market for it? Again, the truth is that Mexicans are growing their dope all over the USA, especially in California.

And you don't think this dope finds its way into the pot shops? What did you say you've been smoking for the past 20 years? Delusional Bud?
38 posted on 03/26/2009 11:55:41 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
many Mexicans grow their dope NORTH of the border to avoid the problems associated with smuggling.

And often on American public lands that they booby trap and guard with armed illegals. Not that the dopers mind.

39 posted on 03/26/2009 12:08:19 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
And often on American public lands that they booby trap and guard with armed illegals. Not that the dopers mind.

That is but one example.
40 posted on 03/26/2009 12:17:57 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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