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Why Doesn't Communism Have As A Bad A Name As Nazism? (Its Leftist Apologia Stupid Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | 3/24/2009 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 03/23/2009 10:30:58 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Kent:
>> Here’s the answer: Left = Communist

RLobster:
> No, that’s not the answer!

Me:
Yes it is!! ;-)

RLobster:
> Left = totalitarianism
> That’s why I say, Communist, Nazi, close enough, same thing.

While I agree with what you say about communism and nazism both being totalitarian in nature, the Question was:

‘Why doesn’t communism have as bad a name as Nazism?’

And the answer is - the Left is communist and the Left rule the media. Your ‘answer’ doesn’t address that question.


21 posted on 03/24/2009 5:45:44 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: goldstategop
A most excellent piece.

Saved & forwarded to others.

22 posted on 03/24/2009 6:03:32 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: Kent C
Of course it does.

From a vantage point of American freedom based politics, National Socialism is just as far left as Democratic Socialism.

23 posted on 03/24/2009 6:03:49 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Of course it does.(answer the question in the OP)

So, to the question: Why Doesn't Communism have as bad a name as Nazism? Your answer is: "because they're both the same".

Nah, that doesn't even address the question. I'm outta here...

24 posted on 03/24/2009 6:28:09 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C
No, I was posting to you, not the title.

the Left is communist and the Left rule the media

Here's the real answer to the question in the title:

The Left is communist and the Communists rule the media. (the Nazis run the DHHS)

25 posted on 03/24/2009 6:37:42 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: goldstategop

And perhaps the number one reason is that the Left consider themseves to be much smarter than the rest of us. For them to face up to the evils of Communism would mean that they were totally wrong about everything in foreign policy since the 1930’s. Same goes for education, judicial fiat, crime...


26 posted on 03/24/2009 6:43:10 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
No, I was posting to you, not the title.

I see, you didn't have a clue from the start. Ok, whatever.

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

27 posted on 03/24/2009 6:49:12 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: goldstategop
IMO number 1 suffices.
1. Communists murdered their own people; the Nazis murdered others.

Add to that the fact that, unfortunately, successor governments in nations like Russia, and governments in China and Cuba, acknowledge no particular abuses of human rights. Using the Russian example, if they don't acknowlege the gulags for what they were, thus don't prosecute the persecutors, there's not much than can be done.

28 posted on 03/24/2009 6:59:02 AM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: goldstategop
"The reason Communism remains fashionable is due to leftist apologia. There is no similar leftist apologia for Nazism and fascism."

Extraordinarily good points, well said. Thanks!

In 1939 the world's great dictators -- Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin -- teamed up to conquer Europe, then the world. And they could easily have succeeded, except that one of the three was insane, and in two years turned on his ally Stalin, in order apparently to impress his enemy, Churchill. It didn't work.

But Hitler's now obvious insanity has prevented anyone not equally insane from saying good words about him. By contrast, Stalin's brutal sanity continues to win grudging admiration, even from people who hate him. I.e., "Yes, he was a devil, but he was our devil," say some in the Left.

The Right of course (that is, our right) will not defend dictators under ANY circumstances, whether they call themselves International Socialists, National Socialists, Fascists, or something else. Dictatorship is dictatorship, and we hate them all -- until, as in 1941, it becomes a matter of life & death. Then: which is the lesser evil, or at least the more distant threat?

In 1941 Hitler's threat was clear and immediate -- he declared war on the US, and sent U-boats to sink more American ships than the Japanese had at Pearl Harbor. At the same time, Americans could see no threat from "Uncle Joe" Stalin. It was seen as a no-brainer.

29 posted on 03/24/2009 7:18:26 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: goldstategop
Communism is based on lovely sounding theories; Nazism is based on heinous sounding theories.

This in company with the prevalence of the left in academia and the communications media is probably the biggest reason. More specifically, the part of communist theory that has an enduring appeal to adherents is its insistence that it is the means to universal human actualization. Nazism promised that actualization only to the members of the "Aryan" race (and still owes an apology to real Aryans who are neither blond nor beasts).

It's attractive because it's an easy-to-understand descriptive sociological model that incorporates three of the baser of human passions: envy and sadism and the sheer delight of destruction. It provides moral sanction for the adolescent "if you are dissatisfied, lash out!" approach to human relationships. It is cleverly evil where Nazism was merely brutally evil. To one who is murdered for politics the distinction is rather academic.

30 posted on 03/24/2009 9:07:04 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop
“Until the left and all the institutions influenced by the left acknowledge how evil communism has been, we will continue to live in a morally confused world.”

Yea, well someone tell Prager there are two chances of that happening...slim & none and “Slim” just left the building.

After more than 40 years of Leftist/Socialist/Communist indoctrination in American colleges & universities and with HALF of Americans dependent on the government for their livelihood; it's no wonder America & Americans are in the mess we're in.

Who says “Communism is dead.”

31 posted on 03/24/2009 11:03:59 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
But where did the word “Nazi” come from?

I think I've found the answer.

The Italian word for “Nationalize” is “Nazionalizzare”.

Do you see a familiar word
contained in that translation?
We do pronounce that word as if speaking Italian as well.

The Nazis “nationalized”, ie, they were socialists.

32 posted on 03/24/2009 11:04:00 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (NO YOU CAN'T)
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To: goldstategop
The Communists killed far more people than the Nazis did but never matched the Holocaust in the systemization of murder.

In a rare (for me) instance of descent from Mr. Prager’s opinion I will say that at least in a sense he is wrong here.

Although the Nazis may have set up a much more elaborate system of murder with their extermination camps the Soviets far out did them in the scale of their extermination.

Where the Nazis set up elaborate rail schedules to export their undesirables to camps to meet their deaths in centralized death factories, the Soviets turned the entire country of the Ukraine in to a death camp.

Perhaps the Nazis plan was more complex out of necessity because they were selective in who they wished to murder. But because Stalin wished to murder an entire country there was no necessity to transport the victims to a central location of extermination.

That being said Stalin’s murder of Ukrainians was every bit as systematic in his method of starving the bread basket of Eastern Europe.

The biggest advantage to Stalin’s wholesale murder was that he could quarantine his concentration camp and so limit the number of witnesses. This permitted Stalin to deny the Ukrainian holocaust for many years.

33 posted on 03/24/2009 12:34:06 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: SJackson
1. Communists murdered their own people;

The families of the 20,000 Polish officers murdered at Katyn would beg to differ with that statement.

34 posted on 03/24/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Blue State Insurgent
But where did the word “Nazi” come from?

National Socialist German Workers’ Party

35 posted on 03/24/2009 12:40:22 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Cobra64
Millions died fighting communism, and Americans elected one. Go figure...

This was the sentiment at the last veteran's day event I went to...

The mood was sad resignation.

36 posted on 03/24/2009 12:43:15 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The left definately are fascists.
Totalitarian collectivists.


37 posted on 03/24/2009 12:43:59 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: Blue State Insurgent

Actually, it came from Nazitionale Socialiste Deutches Arbeiters Partei (aka NSDAP): National Socialist German Worker’s Party.


38 posted on 03/24/2009 1:00:13 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: goldstategop
...I have alot of dictionaries, thesauruses and encyclopedias in my library.Guess you could say I'm seduced by words. Does that make me a communist?;-)

...Good on yer fer the article...

39 posted on 03/24/2009 1:08:07 PM PDT by gargoyle (...Lincoln gave us Amendment 13 and 14. Obamas' trying to have them repealed...)
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To: Little Ray
That's the story I heard too. But how do you get NAZI from NSDAP?

“Nazi” was German slang for nationalize which, it seems to me, was derived from the the Italian word “NAZIonalizarre”

40 posted on 03/24/2009 2:31:31 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (NO YOU CAN'T)
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