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Supreme Court rebuffs Ramos and Compean
Lone Star Times ^

Posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:01 PM PDT by mnehring

The US Supreme Court will not hear the appeals of US Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. The refusal lets stand the opinion of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals affirming the convictions and the sentences of the agents.

Although this effectively ends the agents’ hopes to have their felony convictions overturned, they are now free men thanks to a last minute commutation of their 10-year sentences by President Bush. Had it not been for Bush’s action, the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear the case would likely have meant the agents would have served their full sentences. Nonetheless, since Bush declined to pardon the men, they remain convicted felons.

Is this a vidication of the much-maligned Johnny Sutton (and the trial judge, and the Fifth Circuit justices, all of whom some have suggested were involved, along with the Bush Administration, in some Oliver Stone-like conspiracy) or an indication that SCOTUS is satisfied the men are now free?

Legally speaking, of course, it upholds the government’s case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borderagents; compean; johnnysutton; ramos; ramoscompean; scotus; supremecourt; texas
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1 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:01 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: 09Patriot; Baron OBeef Dip; BellStar; b4its2late; Blue Turtle; BootsOfEscaping; Brad's Gramma; ...

PINGING the INFIDELS..............


2 posted on 03/23/2009 12:31:51 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: mnehring

Bush should have given them a pardon. They are free, but they lost their jobs for doing their jobs. Hopefully there are people Texas who will help them out.


3 posted on 03/23/2009 12:32:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 21twelve; afnamvet; AirForceMom; Alcibiades; alice_in_bubbaland; Amityschild; arbee4bush; ...

PINGING the COMRADES


4 posted on 03/23/2009 12:33:05 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Cicero
a vidication of the much-maligned Johnny Sutton

"Maligned" LOL. Mr let's hide the fact that his star witness was busted smuggling drugs during the trial.
5 posted on 03/23/2009 12:34:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Cicero

Exactly...Bush should have shown some cahones and issued a full pardon.


6 posted on 03/23/2009 12:35:44 PM PDT by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: mnehring
"We're the government. We never make mistakes."

Actually, SCOTUS is saying that proper procedure has been followed. Really, that's the purpose of SCOTUS, to act as head administrator of the court system. As long as courts aren't overstepping their bounds or making up law, they don't see a need to get involved.

7 posted on 03/23/2009 12:36:15 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: mnehring

I hope the American people stand by these guys and are quick to offer jobs or what ever they need to live a normal life. They deserve more than the turn coats that locked them up!!!


8 posted on 03/23/2009 12:36:27 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: mnehring

Our SCOTUS will allow a person to remain in the office of POTUS without making him prove that he’s even Constitutionally eligible.

What has hell happened to my country?


9 posted on 03/23/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by panaxanax (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't.)
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To: mnehring
Bush was never there when we needed him.......

He must live with this now. Of course his ranch is protected by SS and far from the border.....

10 posted on 03/23/2009 12:38:22 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: mnehring; MeekOneGOP
The US Supreme Court will not hear the appeals of US Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.....

Well! That Sux!

Ping

11 posted on 03/23/2009 12:38:41 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mnehring

Huh? SCOTUS heard the case brought by Anna Nicole Smith but won’t hear Ramos and Compean? (shaking my head)


12 posted on 03/23/2009 12:41:17 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: mnehring

The Supreme Court isn’t there to overturn the factual judgment of juries — it is there to correct improper legal procedure or legal interpretations.

In this case, there was no procedural impropriety or erroneous interpretations for the Court to correct — there was simply the poor judgment of a jury. Correcting poor jury judgment is not the purpose of the Supreme Court.

The Court acted as it should have in this case.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 03/23/2009 12:41:44 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (God Bless Our Troops -- Especially Our Snipers)
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To: panaxanax

>> Our SCOTUS will allow a person to remain in the office of POTUS without making him prove that he’s even Constitutionally eligible.

What would you have them do? They do not have the Constitutional authority to remove a sitting President.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 03/23/2009 12:43:07 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (God Bless Our Troops -- Especially Our Snipers)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Have them write an expose book. I, along with millions of others will buy it. We know how to make sure our heros are cared for!


15 posted on 03/23/2009 12:47:40 PM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: mnehring

I guess now they’ll have plenty of time to consider the constitutionality of TARP and the 90% tax aimed at the AIG execs won’t they? Geez.


16 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:10 PM PDT by vortigern (Watch this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“They do not have the Constitutional authority to remove a sitting President.”

They do have the authority to say if the President has been proved eligible according to Constitutional requirements.


17 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:24 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: mnehring

It seems that the SCOTUS acted appropriately. After reading up on the case, I believe Bush did, too.

We like these two because we don’t like illegals. That doesn’t mean they were pure as snow, or did nothing wrong. I refer not so much to the shooting but to their actions afterwards.

Bush did the right thing—these two are not above the law just because we don’t like illegals. They don’t deserve to spend anymore time in prison for their comparatively minor offenses, but they weren’t innocent, either.


18 posted on 03/23/2009 12:50:31 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama Fatigue sufferer)
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Lets hope and work that Palin, Jindal (or other dedicated conservative) take over so the communtations become pardons!!!!


19 posted on 03/23/2009 12:50:38 PM PDT by ak267
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To: wombtotomb
They have no choice but to write a book and sell movie rights, etc.

sw

20 posted on 03/23/2009 12:51:27 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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