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Gun sales going ballistic (DHS visits mail-order ammo buyer!)
PostStar.com ^ | March 20, 2009 | Don Lehman

Posted on 03/22/2009 8:20:26 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

.... Everyone interviewed by The Post-Star for this story agreed ammunition of all calibers has gotten tougher to find, as gun owners stock up. Prices skyrocketed in recent years as metal prices went up, which caused many gun owners to stock up in anticipation of rising ammunition prices.

There are also concerns that some larger calibers, or those used by military-type weapons, could be banned, restricted or taxed more heavily.

One northern Warren County resident found out recently the government is paying attention to such ammunition sales.

West said a customer of his recently stocked up on .223-caliber rounds, a caliber often used in assault-style weapons. The customer bought 1,000 rounds a few months ago through a mail order company.

Shortly after the purchase, he received a visit from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, whose interest was apparently piqued by a large-scale purchase of that caliber.

"His wife was home. He was at church," West said. ....

(Excerpt) Read more at poststar.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; bhodhs; rkba
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To: weef

Try:

midwayusa
sportsmansguide
cabelas

And that case of 1000 is going to look awfully small when it arrives, so consider buying more.


61 posted on 03/22/2009 2:18:50 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Security sucks. I want my freedom back.)
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To: Old Sarge

Hi Old Sarge, wife of retired WI Air Nat’l Guard Chief Master Sgt here, I used to like to hear the husband’s remarks about their range shooting time. He said one guy liked to shoot patterns, smiley faces etc into the targets. The husband would usually bring home penny he’d shot through the middle. He’s only been retired a year. I miss his Guard buddies. 26 years, it went by so fast. They all saw a lot of the world together, and one war. Thanks for your service to our great country sir!

PS: general topic interest-my gunshop was pretty well out of 9mm last week. They also started a 6 box per visit limit on ammo recently. I was there 2 times last week, got the limit both times of various calibers I need (want) no, make that need.


62 posted on 03/22/2009 2:46:03 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Roklok

Thank you for your service to our great country, sir.


63 posted on 03/22/2009 2:53:14 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Ronald Reagan)
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To: SteamShovel
How is 1000 rounds something unusual?

To some in political positions, it could be considered an excess of quantity for the average game hunter not giving thought to the 2nd amendment.

64 posted on 03/22/2009 3:09:50 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Roklok; Old Sarge

Thanks for your service guys.


65 posted on 03/22/2009 4:33:08 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: xmission; TheConservativeParty
Thanks for your service guys.

You two are worth it.

66 posted on 03/22/2009 5:16:58 PM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: Roklok

Was the “official” load out 200 rds?

Thank you for your service.


67 posted on 03/22/2009 5:28:40 PM PDT by omega4179 (Don't spread my wealth, spread my work ethic.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Bull! I don't believe it. I've bought several cases of .223 & 7.62 since last Oct and there has been no DHS response.

IAC, I only bought them because my small step ladder broke and I need something to stand on to reach the top shelves in the garage.

68 posted on 03/22/2009 10:14:56 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Beelzebubba
The last Gun Show I went to had hand carts full of ammo being bought up.

When I asked for 200 rounds of 9MM and .223, the guy said to me, Is That It? I felt like a slacker.

Didn't have the extra bucks or any more room in my gun cabinet at the time.

69 posted on 03/22/2009 10:31:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Since Obama Bin Lyin, the Economy Bin Dyin...)
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To: Beelzebubba
West said a customer of his recently stocked up on .223-caliber rounds, a caliber often used in assault-style weapons. The customer bought 1,000 rounds a few months ago through a mail order company. Shortly after the purchase, he received a visit from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, whose interest was apparently piqued by a large-scale purchase of that caliber.

1000 rounds is a "large-scale purchase" of .223? I would have bought 1000 rounds, if I'd known how fast stuff was going to "Out of Stock". I bought 500 rounds, but almost called them up and changed it to 1000.

Even 1,000 rounds fits in two of these boxes.

For reference each of those loaded rounds is about 2.26 inches long. 1,000 rounds, loose packed, will fit in a single back seat foot well of a compact car.

70 posted on 03/22/2009 10:48:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: EGPWS
To some in political positions, it could be considered an excess of quantity for the average game hunter not giving thought to the 2nd amendment.

Or practice. You can burn a lot of rounds pretty quickly with a light recoiling weapon like an AR-15, or an M-1 Carbine. I did buy 1,000 rounds of the latter, several months ago. Haven't fired a one yet (of that lot). Only have a 500 round box of .223 on order... but I don't yet have a .223 rifle, only a striped lower receiver, the rest is "on order".

71 posted on 03/22/2009 10:58:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Beelzebubba
The customer bought 1,000 rounds a few months ago through a mail order company.

I wonder if the reporter didn't mis-hear this, and it was 10,000 rounds, or even 100,000.

72 posted on 03/22/2009 11:00:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Beelzebubba
Training takes ammo

The two day Appleseed course takes 400+ rounds. That would be a fair amount of 7.62NATO, or 5.56, especially with prices where they are.

73 posted on 03/22/2009 11:07:02 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: weef

ammunitiontogo.com
gunbroker.com


74 posted on 03/23/2009 6:09:45 AM PDT by rocket002
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To: rocket002

I just got through washing and sorting several thousand .223 cases, I can put several hundred in a one gallon baggie.

thats empty cases though.


75 posted on 03/23/2009 6:14:38 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: weef

I forgot cheaperthandirt.com. They aren’t that cheap and a lot of stuff is out of stock, but at least it’s another place to look.

Ammunitiontogo.com is based out of Bryan, so you will have to pay sales tax. Even with the tax and shipping, I was able to get 9mm 124 gr. Hydra-shok cheaper than in the store. Bought 500 rounds and got it in a week. (I’m on the SW side of Houston by the way.)


76 posted on 03/23/2009 6:16:02 AM PDT by rocket002
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To: rocket002

Use Cheaperthandirt as a last resort, Midway or Wideners is much better, or Ammoman. Myself I trust Cabelas, they have never charged me first on backorders. I hear Midway is also good, some outfits will charge you first and then you will be waiting for weeks and weeks.


77 posted on 03/23/2009 7:09:06 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: omega4179; Roklok
First time I went out in VN I took the official 200 rounds. That did not even get me through the next morning. No resupply - bad times. Second time I went out it was 1,000 and the food stayed at base - better times..
78 posted on 03/23/2009 7:24:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: El Gato

I wonder if the reporter didn’t mis-hear this, and it was 10,000 rounds, or even 100,000.


No, the reporter just took the word of a gun-shop owner who claims that a customer (whose name he won’t reveal) that shopped with the online competition got a visit from the feds. Nice way to increase local sales, especially CASH sales that make tax evasion possible.

Sloppy, lazy, irresponsible journalism.

Here’s what the reporter sent me in reply to my query:

“The storeowner who told me about the DHS encounter would not provide anymore details. He’s proven to be a good source for me over the years, so I have no reason to doubt that that was what he was told. Whether it actually happened remains to be seen. The Crossroads store can be reached at ########## is you wanted to try to coax more info from owner **********.”

Maybe a REAL reporter should do some investigating here.


79 posted on 03/23/2009 7:25:38 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Security sucks. I want my freedom back.)
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To: Oldexpat

Shelves nearly empty here in Georgia. Most of what’s left is “unpopular” calibers. Overheard the WalMart clerk telling someone around 9pm “we have some in a truck at the loading dock now, be here no later than 8am if you want it.”


80 posted on 03/23/2009 7:45:19 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was pushed.)
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