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Gun sales going ballistic (DHS visits mail-order ammo buyer!)
PostStar.com ^ | March 20, 2009 | Don Lehman

Posted on 03/22/2009 8:20:26 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

.... Everyone interviewed by The Post-Star for this story agreed ammunition of all calibers has gotten tougher to find, as gun owners stock up. Prices skyrocketed in recent years as metal prices went up, which caused many gun owners to stock up in anticipation of rising ammunition prices.

There are also concerns that some larger calibers, or those used by military-type weapons, could be banned, restricted or taxed more heavily.

One northern Warren County resident found out recently the government is paying attention to such ammunition sales.

West said a customer of his recently stocked up on .223-caliber rounds, a caliber often used in assault-style weapons. The customer bought 1,000 rounds a few months ago through a mail order company.

Shortly after the purchase, he received a visit from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, whose interest was apparently piqued by a large-scale purchase of that caliber.

"His wife was home. He was at church," West said. ....

(Excerpt) Read more at poststar.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; bhodhs; rkba
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To: Old Sarge

So how much did more you have back at your track? How much was your SAW guy carrying?

1000 ain’t nuthin. I go through a 110 rounds at a SASS match (not including shotgun shells). If I want to have plenty of ammo on hand for the year and for practice, I have to order a fairly large load.


41 posted on 03/22/2009 9:44:43 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Beelzebubba

Considering they sell in lots of 400,880,500 or 1000 I call BS on the DHS angle of the story.

They’d have to bring in the IRS agents to cover all the people that have purchased 1,000 round or more at a crack.


42 posted on 03/22/2009 10:09:49 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Yes, Gorbachev is better than Obama. At least Gorbachev admitted he was a Communist)
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To: aimhigh

Use a credit card and you just reported whatever you bought to the government. Ammo is no different than anything else.

Used to be that worrying about this sort of thing was “tin-foil hat” conspiracy theory. Things are different now.

If you communicate by email, you have created a permanent federal government record of whatever you said, and to whom.

If you use a credit card or make a large withdrawal or write a large check on a bank account, you have just created a permanent federal record.

If you place phone call you have created a permanent record of when and to what number.

If you place an international phone call you have, in most cases created a record plus probably had the conversation sampled by government computers.

If you drive from one city to another with your cell phone, you may have created a record of the journey in government computers.

Of course, this is all “for our protection.”


43 posted on 03/22/2009 10:11:49 AM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: mylife

That’s where I shop. The have a store/range here in Boise.


44 posted on 03/22/2009 10:22:54 AM PDT by MarkeyD (OBAMA. Chains we can believe in!)
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To: MarkeyD

I wish we had one here.


45 posted on 03/22/2009 10:31:52 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Beelzebubba

I reserve the right to call shenanigans on this story.

Without names, there is no way of knowing if this is true, and I have heard so much propaganda lately that I’m suspicious.

I was in the sporting goods store buying targets a few weeks ago for the range, and the store had a pallet of cases, each had 1000 rounds. People bought them or they didn’t. No big deal.


46 posted on 03/22/2009 10:43:13 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: headstamp 2; All

Let me clarify my previous statement.

1000 rounds of .223 takes up approximately the same space as 3 bags of sugar.

They are much heavier than 15 pounds.


47 posted on 03/22/2009 11:04:34 AM PDT by airborne (Obama is finishing what Osama started! The destruction of the American economy!!!)
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To: mylife

Drove all over Anchorage yesterday looking for 22WMR.

Found 3 boxes that were not $15+

Pleanty of ammo if you feel like paying 49.95 for 20 rounds of centerfire rifle ammo.

Things are getting a bit crazy....


48 posted on 03/22/2009 11:17:12 AM PDT by ASOC (On strike until Congress lowers THEIR wages)
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To: airborne

1000 rounds of 223 are normally shipped in a box that is 8-1/2”x11”x5”. About the same as a large shoebox, or two reams of paper.

Weighs about 27 lbs.


49 posted on 03/22/2009 11:37:13 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics="Trickle-up Poverty")
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yeh, it total BS.

who the heck doesn’t buy online for less than 500-1000 rounds a pop?

anything less I’m going to my local gun shop.


50 posted on 03/22/2009 11:42:11 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: LoneStarC
I can almost guarantee that ALL cell phone traffic is trapped. Whether a human winds up listening to it or not is another story.
51 posted on 03/22/2009 12:07:34 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: ASOC

Funny. I just got back from the store too.

They wanted $15 for 100 empty WMR .223 cases


52 posted on 03/22/2009 1:16:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: headstamp 2
In the scheme of things, 1000 rounds is nothing. I could see them getting interested for say 10’s of thousands. 223’s are relatively small in size as rifle calibers go. It’s like they came in on a pallet to the guy.

I ordered some .223 about a month ago and it was supposed to arrive last week but when i checked on my orders status I found that it was now on back order. Is it a shortage or is DHS overwhelmed by the number of people that they've got to check up on? Also .223 may be a small caliber but the large case full of powder gives it quite a punch. I like 30.06 much better but they're expansive and hard to get now.

53 posted on 03/22/2009 1:32:25 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Whatever happened to the terrorist threat? Has that been abandoned?

Bitter people are now the threat.

54 posted on 03/22/2009 1:33:23 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Old Sarge

I was talking to someone at church today, and he got several hundred rounds of .223, .45, but couldn’t get 357. He called the manufacturer and they said they can’t get brass and his order may take as long as five months.


55 posted on 03/22/2009 1:40:00 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: Old Sarge

I carried a minimum of 430 rounds in Vietnam. Twenty 20 round magazines and a 30 rounder in the rifle.


56 posted on 03/22/2009 1:46:30 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: aimhigh
Yes, they are spying on citizens.

Next think you know, they'll be investigating people who buy too much fertilizer.

57 posted on 03/22/2009 1:49:50 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: aimhigh
Yes, they are spying on citizens.

Next think you know, they'll be investigating people who buy too much fertilizer.

58 posted on 03/22/2009 1:50:30 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Beelzebubba

I’m a newbie gun owner (Ruger P95) and haven’t been able to find 9mm here north of Houston for a couple of weeks now. If anyone has the website “number” of a good ammo website to buy from please let me know.


59 posted on 03/22/2009 1:57:23 PM PDT by weef
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To: Little Ray

We had no track, only a group of 1114’s. We each carried our own basic load, and the turret gunner (either a SAW or a 249) had no less than three ammo boxes; plus there was pyro in the truck. We were scouts, we traveled light.


60 posted on 03/22/2009 1:59:51 PM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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