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Gun sales going ballistic (DHS visits mail-order ammo buyer!)
PostStar.com ^ | March 20, 2009 | Don Lehman

Posted on 03/22/2009 8:20:26 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

.... Everyone interviewed by The Post-Star for this story agreed ammunition of all calibers has gotten tougher to find, as gun owners stock up. Prices skyrocketed in recent years as metal prices went up, which caused many gun owners to stock up in anticipation of rising ammunition prices.

There are also concerns that some larger calibers, or those used by military-type weapons, could be banned, restricted or taxed more heavily.

One northern Warren County resident found out recently the government is paying attention to such ammunition sales.

West said a customer of his recently stocked up on .223-caliber rounds, a caliber often used in assault-style weapons. The customer bought 1,000 rounds a few months ago through a mail order company.

Shortly after the purchase, he received a visit from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, whose interest was apparently piqued by a large-scale purchase of that caliber.

"His wife was home. He was at church," West said. ....

(Excerpt) Read more at poststar.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; bhodhs; rkba
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To: mylife

And that $400 was on the lower end. I saw other tables asking $425.


21 posted on 03/22/2009 9:03:38 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: LRS

Note the banner at the top of the webpage

“Change IS coming”


22 posted on 03/22/2009 9:04:00 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LRS

Damned scalpers


23 posted on 03/22/2009 9:05:08 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mad_as_he$$

At this point, it’s cash for everything...


24 posted on 03/22/2009 9:05:23 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: LRS

5 years ago it was $79 for 1000


25 posted on 03/22/2009 9:05:45 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Yeah, My, I can see that. But I am willing to wager that they needed a “magic number” of ammo purchases that would trigger a reason to investigate - and 1K rounds is probably the threshold.

So, buying in lots of 500 rounds will pass under the radar.

For now...


26 posted on 03/22/2009 9:06:29 AM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: Old Sarge

Most of them I see come in with like 100 dollars every week and buy what they can.


27 posted on 03/22/2009 9:08:01 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Old Sarge
Sarge I have bought in excess of 1,000 rounds many times and never had a peep from anyone. At gunshows these days I see guys leaving with 10,000 rounds. Yes, a pallet full and not a peep out of anyone. IMHO this is a BS story or they were checking on the guy for something else. Him being at church and the wife at home MAY mean Muslim.
28 posted on 03/22/2009 9:10:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Old Sarge

So yeah, a thousand rounds would raise some LEO eyebrows.


Training takes ammo. Here’s the requirement for a single rifle course at Thunder ranch:

Urban Rifle - UR
Created in 1983 this course is still the one most copied but not duplicated by other institutions. Urban rifle is the cornerstone of the personal defensive doctrine of this school and has been since the schools inception. Very simply this is the way to defend yourself… and this course the way to defend your self with a rifle.
Nominal 800 rounds of ammunition. Generally for magazine fed iron sighted rifles but other rifle types accepted. Low powered or dot type optics permitted but it is recommended that backup iron sights be available somewhere on the rifle.

http://www.thunderranchinc.com/courses.html


29 posted on 03/22/2009 9:12:54 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics="Trickle-up Poverty")
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To: aimhigh

I don’t know which agency in DHS would be watching ammo sales. I could see BATFE or a Postal Inspector showing up, but none of the DHS components would have any jurisdiction on ammo. The only exception would be USSS if they guy had made threats against the POTUS (or should I say TOTUS.)


30 posted on 03/22/2009 9:14:09 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: aimhigh

If these clowns are monitoring ammunition purchases by individuals, they have their work cut out for them. Millions are buying ammunition. Whatever happened to the terrorist threat? Has that been abandoned?


31 posted on 03/22/2009 9:15:00 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Old Sarge
So yeah, a thousand rounds would raise some LEO eyebrows.

I wasn't talking about practice for the sake of learning how to hit a target.....

I was referring to recreational shooting of targets.

A thousand rounds would not last very long if you spend a weekend or two with friends hitting targets. Maybe "practice" was the wrong word to use.

I suppose you are supposed to buy ammo in small quantities, like a pint of milk, going to the store every time you need it? People buy in bulk for economy and convenience, it's nothing new. I could maybe see if he bought 10,000 or maybe 100,000 rounds, but 1000?

32 posted on 03/22/2009 9:16:06 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Beelzebubba; All

1000 rounds provokes a visit?????

That is only 32 shots fired each day for one month!


33 posted on 03/22/2009 9:16:20 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: USNBandit

It is possible that if he was an legal permanent resident with a somewhat checkered U.S. background that ICE could come calling, but I doubt it.


34 posted on 03/22/2009 9:16:32 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Beelzebubba
Doesn't DHS have better things to do, like secure our borders and enforce immigration laws??

Nah, let's investigate "typical white people" bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.

Proper response to DHS/ATF: "Got a warrant? No? Goodbye."

Buying ammo? PAY CASH!

35 posted on 03/22/2009 9:18:30 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: Beelzebubba

As to the accuracy of this story, who knows.

But I don’t find it difficult to believe that the feds will (if they aren’t now) be making some sort of effort to track online ammo purchases.


36 posted on 03/22/2009 9:20:24 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Beelzebubba
I went to a gun show in Denver yesterday to pick up some .357 magnum ammunition.

It used to be you could just walk right in. This time, the line was all the way down the side of the block and half way around the other. Inside, the place was so packed it was hard to walk around.

Anyway, there was no .357 mag ammo to be had. It was all sold out in the first hour and a half of the show's opening.

37 posted on 03/22/2009 9:26:44 AM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Beelzebubba

When I go shopping at Wal Mart I always find several boxes of 30 carbine I pick up for my dad ... other times it’s either 30-30 or 22-250 ... no 30-06 though ... haven’t seen a box of them at Wally’s in a long time ...


38 posted on 03/22/2009 9:32:34 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: raisetheroof

I haven’t seen any .38 special in months


39 posted on 03/22/2009 9:34:40 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Beelzebubba

Are online sales of ammunition reported to the Feds?


40 posted on 03/22/2009 9:38:09 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (CPA, MBA needs a job - referrals welcome)
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