Posted on 03/21/2009 9:58:28 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
What they said is that they have "seen" that the original birth certificate is on file.
You need to pay attention to exactly what they said and not add your own gloss on top of that.
From that link you posted:
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.
Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.
Unless, he "qualified", he isn't anything but a fraud. He certainly is not a LEGAL president.
Sounds good, think I’ll use this info in a letter versus email to my CongressCritters.
Which we exercise in one of two ways:
1) Through our Representatives in Congress assembled. These Representatives voted 538-0, with Richard Cheney of Wyoming in the chair, to certify the election of Barack Obama. The Electoral Vote Counting Act designated this special Joint Session of Congress as the proper forum for challenges to the qualifications of electoral vote recipients, none were raised.
2) Through revolution.
This forum is not a venue for advocacy of #2, according to the owner. According to #1, Barack Hussein Dunham Obama Soetero is fully qualified as President, by the unanimous vote of the only body capable of acting on behalf of the People.
Where does that leave you?
You are not correct; you've been lied to.
You cannot be a “citizen” of a US state. you are a resident.
or you are in a camp?
I quoted U.S. code to you. Isn’t that good enough for you? Your “Electoral Vote Counting Act” doesn’t eliminate the requirement to qualify. Eliminating that would take an AMENDMENT to the constitution itself. No “act” is constitutional if it doesn’t uphold the constitution. This “act” of yours, by NOT REQUIRING that qualifications are indeed presented, but relies on the good faith of a representative to question it doesn’t uphold that which is written in the twentieth amendmend. This is in direct conflict with the language of the twentieth amendment thus it is not constitutional. Got any other worthless arguments?
I bet it's better than 99% chance he's another BC troll.
I’m waiting for his answer.
I just noticed that my tag line is getting more relevant every year.
I know you’re just doing your job at your local Acorn office. I just want to thank you for each time your comments bump this thread. It helps others see it. Thanks again.
The state of Hawaii has never confirmed that the information on the images purported to be Obama’s COLB at “factcheck”.org or DailyKOS to be what is on file at the Hawaiian Department of Health.
Since he's technically not a "president elect" when he is running for office, I would spend my efforts on what is required of him by the Constitution rather than by anyone at a state level. This doesn't mean that we can't tighten the process to include this accountability to be placed on a ballot for president. In fact, it might be a voting rights violation if we, as voters, are not given candidates that are indeed "eligible or qualified" for the office they are seeking.
What is he Hiding and Why?
No they have NOT said that they have looked at the information on the face of Obama’s original, long-form certificate, much less compared that to what a website has posted as purporting to be Obama’s COLB.
What they said is that they have “seen” that the original birth certificate is on file.
You need to pay attention to exactly what they said and not add your own gloss on top of that.
From that link you posted:
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.
Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently from any other.
Both Dr. Fukino and Dr. Onaka were/are perfectly capable of holding another press conference, the very next day if they had so chosen, or asking for a retraction/correction in the local Honolulu newspapers if the media got their stated intentions wrong by saying that they had “verified” Obama’s birth certificate. Neither of them held another press conference or demanded a retraction or correction of the media interpretation of their statements.
Under Hawaii law what is printed on the state issued short form Certification of Live Birth must match word for word what is on the long form, vault copy, Certificate with regard to place of birth and date of birth. Those two pieces of information are the only Constitutionally mandated data relevant to proving Natural Born status.
Obama short form says that he was born at 7:24 P.M. on (Friday} August 4, 1961 in the City of Honolulu, in the County of Honolulu, on the Island of Oahu, in the state of Hawaii. That birth was registered with the state on Tuesday, August 8, 1961.
Either that document is valid or it is a forgery or fraudulent.
I am advocating that a CRIMINAL investigation be initiated for forgery or fraud before a Grand Jury with a subpoena for the original long form Certification to be compared to the short form.
In my humble opinion that is the most expeditious way to resolve the issue once and for all.
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