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To: jamese777
No they have NOT said that they have looked at the information on the face of Obama's original, long-form certificate, much less compared that to what a website has posted as purporting to be Obama's COLB.

What they said is that they have "seen" that the original birth certificate is on file.

You need to pay attention to exactly what they said and not add your own gloss on top of that.

From that link you posted:

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

121 posted on 03/21/2009 2:29:46 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

No they have NOT said that they have looked at the information on the face of Obama’s original, long-form certificate, much less compared that to what a website has posted as purporting to be Obama’s COLB.
What they said is that they have “seen” that the original birth certificate is on file.

You need to pay attention to exactly what they said and not add your own gloss on top of that.

From that link you posted:

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently from any other.


My mistake. I should have posted a link to the NEWSPAPER article where Dr. Fukino is quoted as saying that she and Dr. Onaka had personally SEEN Obama’s long form certificate. Here is that link: http://www.starbulletin.com/news/hawaiinews/20081101_officials_verify_birth_certificate_of_obama.html

Both Dr. Fukino and Dr. Onaka were/are perfectly capable of holding another press conference, the very next day if they had so chosen, or asking for a retraction/correction in the local Honolulu newspapers if the media got their stated intentions wrong by saying that they had “verified” Obama’s birth certificate. Neither of them held another press conference or demanded a retraction or correction of the media interpretation of their statements.

Under Hawaii law what is printed on the state issued short form Certification of Live Birth must match word for word what is on the long form, vault copy, Certificate with regard to place of birth and date of birth. Those two pieces of information are the only Constitutionally mandated data relevant to proving Natural Born status.

Obama short form says that he was born at 7:24 P.M. on (Friday} August 4, 1961 in the City of Honolulu, in the County of Honolulu, on the Island of Oahu, in the state of Hawaii. That birth was registered with the state on Tuesday, August 8, 1961.

Either that document is valid or it is a forgery or fraudulent.

I am advocating that a CRIMINAL investigation be initiated for forgery or fraud before a Grand Jury with a subpoena for the original long form Certification to be compared to the short form.

In my humble opinion that is the most expeditious way to resolve the issue once and for all.


140 posted on 03/21/2009 4:33:46 PM PDT by jamese777
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