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To: RegulatorCountry; tpanther; WVKayaker; Kansas58; metmom; Secret Agent Man; Iscool
For Regulator: I'm reconsidering my earlier reply about not discussing my beliefs. For the rest, and for you to, below is the foundation of Roman Catholic faith, hence the name the Profession of Faith, drawn from the Nicene Creed. In general we recite it at every Mass:

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven:
[bow during the next two lines:]
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

For those of you who have a misunderstanding of Roman Catholics and Mary, I commend the following, which also summarizes how we view Her:

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death.
Amen. For WVKayaker, the priest certainly advises. More importantly, he has the power to Consecrate bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ. He also has the power to forgive or to hold fast sins.

416 posted on 03/22/2009 7:44:23 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter
For WVKayaker, the priest certainly advises. More importantly, he has the power to Consecrate bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ. He also has the power to forgive or to hold fast sins.

Thanks for the heads up. I also accept the "Nicene Creed" as my statement of faith, as well. However, at that point we diverge. It uses the term catholic in it's proper form, recognizing ALL BELIEVERS, universally.

any BELIEVER can consecrate bread and wine. It is the symbol given to us by the Lord. His Blood and His Body are not in the bread and wine, nor is there any basis for that claim, Scripturally.

There is no need for ANY earthly intercessor, and the only forgiveness found in Scripture is in the Grace of God, not Rome. We are all priests, according to Scripture. Thrre are overseers, but they have unique toles, not including the decisions concerning other people's sin. There is something in there about judging others. Jesus made it very simple to be part of His body, the church. Faith, rested in HIM, and nothing more...

I do not recognize a Pope. I do not see any role for Cardinals, or church secretaries, nor historians. Historry was completed on the cross. All else is anticlimactic, and we are just biding time until His return.

Sorry, believe as you will, but put your faith firmly in Jesus Blood, and take Him down from the altar crosses. Your RC church organization is just that, another organization. It can't make any priority claim to the Grace of God. Sorry, it is NOT written!

He is risen. All power is His, not Rome. Mary was a woman. Saints are Christians, not RCatholics, and certainly have no power to give out party favors. or grant wishes.

He is risen. He is not speaking to Rome, if that is what you believe, He is speaking to YOUR heart. He is risen!


420 posted on 03/22/2009 8:22:14 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear. -Mark Twain)
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To: starlifter

>>He also has the power to forgive or to hold fast sins.

And Candles have the power to ameliorate the suffering of loved ones in purgatory.

Despite what the Empire’s Eunuchs say - Roman Catholosyncretism is not Christianity.

There is no priest required for reconciliation between myself and my creator. It’s an individual thing; and I will not INDULGEnce the lies of those who claim otherwise.


422 posted on 03/22/2009 8:24:48 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: starlifter

Been there, done that.


454 posted on 03/22/2009 10:04:48 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: starlifter

That’s all fine and good. I am just telling you the Roman Catholic Church is wrong on the idea of theistic evolution. You reject the creation account as it is written.

In Genesis, God said “Let us make man in our own image.” Man is formed from the dust of the ground by God and the breath of life is breathed into him. And how Eve was formed out of one of man’s ribs by God Himself. God’s own account.

The RCC position of theistic evolution (ie God uses evolution to get to man) is totally opposed to the Genesis account of how God created man and woman.


466 posted on 03/22/2009 12:01:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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