“For the Early Church, the BIBLE did not exist
That's the early Catholic church...They had no need for the scriptures...They still don't...”
Nearly every thing said, in a Catholic Mass, comes directly from the Bible.
Every reading said, can be traced directly to the Bible.
Also, the Catholic Church is the MOTHER of the Bible.
God never commanded that a New Testament be written. The entire idea to combine the various NT books with the OT books was a CATHOLIC idea, inspired by God but not Commanded by God.
The Bible did not exist until the Catholic Church decided to create the Bible.
This is FACT!
Furthermore, to say that one book of the Bible references other APOSTLES is weak, weak, weak as an argument.
You will notice that no book of the New Testament references chapter and verse of a New Testament book, by name. SINCE NO NAMES EXISTED SINCE THE VARIOUS BOOKS HAD NOT BEEN EDITED, COLATED, PUBLISHED AND CANNONIZED YET!
You are an anti Catholic bigot.
I think that you are wrong on facts and doctrine, but I do not think that your error endangers your soul UNLESS you have reached the point where you condemn those who disagree.
You do not have that power, or that right, or that privilege.
You are simply wrong, and when YOU get to Heaven, God will gently correct your hubris.
You are an anti Catholic bigot.
All Christians are not (Roman) Catholic. All (Roman) Catholics are not Christian. They just assume their membership in good standing applies, because the RC church says so.
Romans 3:19ff: 19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
Then you are calling a liar the very scriptures that claim otherwise...Peter regognized and acknowledged that the letters (epistles) that Paul wrote and preached from was 'scripture'...
Also, the Catholic Church is the MOTHER of the Bible.
Again, sorry...Is this one of the truths your religion gets from the scripture??? I think not...
You will notice that no book of the New Testament references chapter and verse of a New Testament book, by name.
The NT apostles didn't name their 'books'...They were letters to different churches and groups...And Peter referenced Paul's BOOKS...
The Bible did not exist until the Catholic Church decided to create the Bible. This is FACT!
Just like evolution, eh??? Do you mean a leather bound book with gilded edges and a blue ribbon for a placemarker??? Or do you mean the scriptures???
The scriptures were written, carried around, copied and distrubuted by the apostles...And they may have been catholic (if you want to translate into Latin) but they certainly were not Catholic...
You are an anti Catholic bigot.
Yah, and I discriminate too...