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To: Repeal 16-17

Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.


40 posted on 03/20/2009 2:52:50 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: momincombatboots
Reminder: It has been done before. They would simply declare the patriots “combatants” or “insurrectionists” and force the USAF and every other service member to choose. When I took the oath it was “enemies, both foreign and domestic”. Simply declaring patriots domestic enemies would allow the US military to “fire at will”. Remember Waco? If the government declares a group as domestic enemies, swat teams will shoot first and ask questions later.

How does the federal government "force" the USAF to fire on fellow Americans? As for your "oath", is it ever possible for members of the federal government to be the "enemies" against whom the USAF is to protect the People? I'm sure this is not your intention, but your comment above gives the impression that the USAF consists of mindless drones. I hope our American soldiers and sailors are able to identify this countries domestic enemies.

50 posted on 03/20/2009 3:08:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: momincombatboots

When I took the oath it was to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. That was almost 30 years ago so it may have changed.

According to my oath, that I took before God, the current administration are usurpers of the constitution and therefore domestic enemies. I can bet that many in the armed forces see it the same way.


86 posted on 03/20/2009 4:35:12 PM PDT by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: momincombatboots

I disagree; the oath was to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. By his violation of the Constitution several times a day at this point Obama has made himself the enemy. The military personnel know this and would not follow his illegal orders. This, my friends is why he wants a “Domestic Security Force” as strong and well funded as the military. This is what should be scaring the hell out of all of us. His civilian force would not hesitate to fire at will.


91 posted on 03/20/2009 4:53:25 PM PDT by Idaho_Independent (The 3 boxes of freedom, Soap Box, Ballet Box, and the Ammo Box.)
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To: momincombatboots; Repeal 16-17
The salient question is not if the general rank and file will open fire on fellow Americans; it is if the the general staff would uniformly consent to execute such orders.

The rank and file would be split, but the general outcome would be the same. - death to the poorly organized patriots.

Not so if the brass is not going to follow unconscionable or unlawful orders.

That attitude would filter down in about 3 seconds flat, and then there would be real Hell to pay within the executive branch..

177 posted on 03/21/2009 4:16:23 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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