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You have spoken what I did not. I thought it was rather obvious, so I didn't mention it. Apparently it IS obvious...at least to you. If you've realized it, then others have as well, whether they admit it or not. I certainly don't make this junk up. Nor do I get any satisfaction from writing about it. To be honest, it rather depresses me every time I put these thoughts on this forum.

What you've mentioned is the main reason I've been telling people that a civil conflict on our soil is to be avoided at almost all cost. Once committed people are involved, there will be assassinations, murder, kidnappings, torture, bombings, essential service disruptions, and other extreme unpleasantries which can be proven as FACT in similar circumstances elsewhere in this world, but seem to be overlooked and ignored by a certain number of enthusiastic Patriots here. Iraq is a good example, as is Northern Ireland. Everybody thinks that an all out civil conflict will be instant death or victory. Nobody thinks of the midnight kidnappings, the torture, or the psychological operations aspect of it. Our nation would turn into a living hell within a month, and those who really believe they want civil war here are simply insane. It would be a constant and REAL environment of fear, uncertainty, and doubt. If people think dealing with financial collapse is stressful, just wait until we're embroiled in civil war!

However, having said that.... should a certain number of truly "committed" people catalyze into an organized force, and not some disillusioned bunch of idiots with no experience, then this nation will have a SEVERE problem on its hands in very short order.

But IF that doesn't happen...and we all hope and pray that it does NOT, then logistics is certainly the area to focus on.

As I tried to explain; I'm not advocating anything, but simply trying to be a realist. I once was, and continue to be an analyst....no more, and no less.

During the Civil War the south had 10 Million people, total. Just Virgina and Tennessee together have that now. You need to start thinking about the scale of something like this. Start thinking huge.

No one who knows war wants one as you properly state !

If I can go the rest of my life without firing a round in anger I will pass from this world a happy man !