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To: NormsRevenge

Rush played the reasoning why some of the Republicans voted for the bill this morning. It was a speech made by Ed Royce. I believe Dana Rohrabacher probably felt the same way. These guys are staunchly conservative

Basically it was to teach the private companies a lesson about coming to the federal government looking for a handout. In other words if they get their hand slapped they may not come back while hopefully others will stay away.

You may or may not agree but that is the reasoning. It was not a sellout as some on this board are thinking.


16 posted on 03/19/2009 9:25:49 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

in other words - it is a punishment for their earlier misdeed.

very dissapointing nonetheless


22 posted on 03/19/2009 9:29:08 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: Parley Baer

I appreciate the input.

In the end, the courts may trash it anyway... but.. if a lesson is learned.. good.


23 posted on 03/19/2009 9:29:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Parley Baer
Basically it was to teach the private companies a lesson about coming to the federal government looking for a handout. In other words if they get their hand slapped they may not come back while hopefully others will stay away.

Admitting that they are punishing these guys by confiscatory taxes? Oh to be one of the AIG employee lawyers. Such a slam dunk case because congressmen take such glee in admitting that this was a bill punishing individuals without due process.

34 posted on 03/19/2009 9:41:51 PM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: Parley Baer
“It was not a sellout as some on this board are thinking.”

I don't care what Rush may have said. The constitution is nothing to be played with. These elected representatives are sworn in with the oath to “uphold the constitution”, not vote against it to make a political point. What next Freedom of speech, or the 2nd amendment?

49 posted on 03/19/2009 10:05:25 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Parley Baer

How was it not a sellout when they swore to uphold, protect and defend the constitution?


56 posted on 03/19/2009 10:24:16 PM PDT by DrewsMum (My 8 year old son cried when he learned Obama won. He said "I am just so sad for our army people")
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To: Parley Baer

My Rep was a total sellout, per usual. And he just got a piece of my mind via e-mail. He’ll get a call tomorrow.


62 posted on 03/20/2009 12:38:39 AM PDT by sadiebella
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To: Parley Baer

No excuse — none whatsoever. They are buying into the PUNITIVE part of this law then — it makes it even more clear that this was meant as PUNISHMENT and is indeed a Bill of Attainder.

We cannot give them an “out” when they pretend this was some sly political move... They have STILL accomplished the SAME THING regardless of their motives — DESTROYING OUR CONSTITUTION!

How can people possibly think this makes sense — sell the ENTIRE NATION up the river to stick it to the ones they are angry with to prove a point??? What is this “Vendetta Politics”???

Are people actually going to give them a pass on this? Unbelievable... It’s no wonder the GOP is floundering so incredibly badly. They are too stupid to see they are being USED! Or worse — perhaps those who are defending them are too stupid to realize that their explanation is complete BS!

Don’t humor us by saying this was not a sell-out. That is exactly what this is, and this isn’t the first part of their actions to that effect, either! I don’t care how conservative these people pretend to be — they have a RESPONSIBILITY to NOT vote for ANYTHING that goes against ANY part of our Constitution...

Again, absolutely NO EXCUSE, and NO explanation will suffice. Nothing short of a tearful apology on their knees along with a letter of resignation should suffice.

The ones who need to learn the lesson here are our Congressmen!


70 posted on 03/20/2009 3:11:47 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Parley Baer
Ok so this is the reasoning...

Pass a unconstitutional bill to teach a lesson

The founding fathers would have hung 'em in the courtyard !!!!

74 posted on 03/20/2009 4:47:32 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Parley Baer
Yes, it was a sell out but they will get away with it because too many people join you in letting it pass. And, don't imply Rush winked at this, here is what he actually said: I can't tell you how flipping mad what happened yesterday in the House of Representatives makes me. I've been alive 58 years. I've been paying attention to things since I was 12, and I've been through the House Post Office and the House Bank Scandals. But when I saw that happen yesterday, and all week leading up to yesterday, rivals the most outrageous dishonest, disingenuous, near-criminal act I have ever seen. The House of Representatives is enacting legislation to tax a certain number of people at 90% on bonuses they were paid, acting as though they had no idea this had happened.

It was in the stimulus bill that was written in Nancy Pelosi’s damned office! Those bonuses were exempted, limits on those bonuses were exempted. The bonuses were known when they wrote the stimulus bill. It happened in Nancy Pelosi’s office, and Barney Frank helped write it. They passed a law, and they sent it to the president, and good old Special Olympics- teleprompter Obama signed the damn thing. Would never have happened, had they not exempted it. It was in the bill, it was in the law, and they act yesterday like they got blindsided. And they act yesterday like somebody pulled a trick on them. I detest these people. If the mob is mad, if the mob is angry — go ahead and be mad at AIG, if you want, if you want to follow popular sentiment.

But if you're not mad at the US House of Representatives and the United States Senate, if you are not fit to be tied over what they are doing, the assault that they are making on individual liberty, the founding of this country... They are acting as potentates with limitless power. Most of them are incompetent. That's where your anger ought to be directed, and the chance you have to vent your anger is 2010.

84 posted on 03/20/2009 11:43:23 PM PDT by Conservative9
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