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House Readies Passage of Volunteerism Bill Critics Call Pricey, Forced Service
FoxNews ^ | Wednesday, March 18, 2009 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 03/18/2009 9:49:13 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican

WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives is expected to pass a measure Wednesday that supporters are calling the most sweeping reform of nationally-backed volunteer programs since AmeriCorps. But some opponents are strongly criticizing the legislation, calling it expensive indoctrination and forced advocacy.

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Here they come my friends. Hitler did this and look what happened
1 posted on 03/18/2009 9:49:13 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican
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To: BornToBeAmerican

I’m watching this on CSPAN.

So far, 2 republicans have spoken in support of this.

Platts from PA and someone else from CA-I forgot his name.


2 posted on 03/18/2009 9:52:52 AM PDT by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

I guess the draging your neighbor out of their house corp
is understood?


3 posted on 03/18/2009 9:53:05 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: BornToBeAmerican

I just want them to leave me and my family alone.

This is just another step in their agenda to control all of us.


4 posted on 03/18/2009 9:56:33 AM PDT by sneakers (FUBO)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

What happened to separation of church and state?
Charity is the realm of the church.
GET THE STATE OUT OF CHARITY WORK!


5 posted on 03/18/2009 9:59:14 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: BornToBeAmerican
So, would this be more like the Hitlerjugend or the Young Pioneers?

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6 posted on 03/18/2009 9:59:18 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
But the bill's opponents -- and there are only a few in Congress -- say it could cram ideology down the throats of young "volunteers," many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a "Congressional Commission on Civic Service."

The bipartisan commission will be tasked with exploring a number of topics, including "whether a workable, fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the nation."

"We contribute our time and money under no government coercion on a scale the rest of the world doesn't emulate and probably can't imagine," said Luke Sheahan, contributing editor for the Family Security Foundation. "The idea that government should order its people to perform acts of charity is contrary to the idea of charity and it removes the responsibility for charity from the people to the government, destroying private initiative."
This is it folks. This is the centerpiece of 0bama's plans for creating a "civilian national security force" in America. He's turning his 0bama Youth into an arm of the State. It must be opposed at all costs. Our nation is on the line.

Orrin Hatch is the co-sponsor along with Ted Kennedy in the Senate. It is time he is retired by the people of his state.

This is Fascism, pure and simple.
BTW, Tom McClintock is one of only 3 members of the House Education and Labor Committee to vote against it.
Three futile cheers for Tom.
 
7 posted on 03/18/2009 10:01:59 AM PDT by counterpunch (Kenya has two presidents. America has Zero.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Don’t you call paid volunteers ‘employees’?

Ridiculous!


8 posted on 03/18/2009 10:02:47 AM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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Are you sure about this? Todd Platts is Volunteer and First Responders, not the Americor crap.
9 posted on 03/18/2009 10:04:07 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Fump!)
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To: counterpunch
This is it folks. This is the centerpiece of 0bama’s plans for creating a “civilian national security force” in America. He's turning his 0bama Youth into an arm of the State

Go take a look at the americorp site to look at the volunteering possibilities. Damn scary................
10 posted on 03/18/2009 10:05:56 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Got a link and a few highlights?


11 posted on 03/18/2009 10:09:18 AM PDT by counterpunch (Kenya has two presidents. America has Zero.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

He rose up in support of HR1388 today.


12 posted on 03/18/2009 10:09:46 AM PDT by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: PeterPrinciple
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

So what part of Involuntary Servitude do these idiots not understand?

13 posted on 03/18/2009 10:16:42 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: anoldafvet

Endentured servitude = government sanctioned slavery.


14 posted on 03/18/2009 10:20:16 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: anoldafvet

So what part of Involuntary Servitude do these idiots not understand?


It will be “voluntary” or else you won’t get your cheese.


15 posted on 03/18/2009 10:20:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Along with McKeon


16 posted on 03/18/2009 10:22:13 AM PDT by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Forced Service anyone hear a peep from any draft dodgers?guess who didn’t get to avoid the draft after all wonder if the news of a 22% increase of apartments (camps) is tied to this story????


17 posted on 03/18/2009 10:24:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts
Ping!

Another 'toldja'.

BOHICA

18 posted on 03/18/2009 10:34:37 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage...)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
I know that this has nothing to do with the Commerce Clause so no one in Congress has 'prolly' never heard of or read this...
Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865.
  1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
And you can't magically turn "involuntary servitude" into "voluntary service" when it's a requirement to receive your Student Loan, OR .. a course requirement to receive your College Degree. When its compulsory, are FORCED to do something, there's no 'volunteering', its mandatory, and therefore illegal and Unconstitutional - period.

And no illegal contract is enforceable in court. Even if you willfully enter into one (that's why Mafia Loan Sharks don't sue you).

19 posted on 03/18/2009 10:55:57 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Seaplaner

So, would this be more like the Hitlerjugend or the Young Pioneers?

Komsomol.


20 posted on 03/18/2009 10:59:51 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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