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Where have all the gold bugs gone? - Huge shift among gold timers from bull to bear
Marketwatch ^ | March 17, 2009 12:01 a.m. EDT | Mark Hulbert, MarketWatch

Posted on 03/17/2009 9:28:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 03/17/2009 9:43:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ANNANDALE, Va. (MarketWatch) -- Call it the retreat of the gold bugs.

Over the past three weeks, the editor of the average gold timing newsletter I monitor has hastily jumped off the bullish bandwagon. And a not insignificant number have taken the occasion to furthermore jump onto the bearish bandwagon.


(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: financialcrisis; globalfinances; gold
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1 posted on 03/17/2009 9:28:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What sins did gold bullion commit to elicit this huge of a reaction?

Probably the rumors that the IMF is going to sell off a lot of what they hold.
2 posted on 03/17/2009 9:29:39 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yet its still over 900 an oz.


3 posted on 03/17/2009 9:35:33 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those who really have major capital to invest understand that gold doesn’t make money as much as it holds value, it is an insurance policy... however, with the higher tax rates on gold and the fact that the predictions of skyrocketing prices haven’t come to pass means that most investors, while they may hold some gold, don’t dump everything into it, they are smart and diversify.

There is also the caution of gold scams, there are many out there where people are investing in gold only to find there is no gold..


4 posted on 03/17/2009 9:37:06 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like a buy signal if you have a long-term outlook.


5 posted on 03/17/2009 9:37:14 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: mnehring
"There is also the caution of gold scams, there are many out there where people are investing in gold only to find there is no gold.."

Is that sort of like naked short selling?? Where you sell stock that you don't actually own or have access to??

6 posted on 03/17/2009 9:45:18 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Historically Gold has had it’s bullish periods, but it also eventually falls. The key is to pick the time to buy and the time to sell. Usually, after it falls, it stays down a lot longer than it stays up when it rises. I would suggest it you now have Gold, it’s time to sell.


7 posted on 03/17/2009 9:45:36 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: mnehring
There is also the caution of gold scams, there are many out there where people are investing in gold only to find there is no gold.

If you don't have personal possession of it, or in a back safe deposit box, you don't own it. If the world goes to hell in a hand basket, does anyone think those holding it for you will actually hand it over?

8 posted on 03/17/2009 9:46:24 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The next couple of days will tell the tale. The last month is a "head and shoulders" pattern, and the trendline from about mid-November, which hits every short-term bottom since then, is around 88 today. (This is the gold ETF not gold itself.) One good $25-down day -- which happens all the time -- through that trendline would frighten a lot of people.


9 posted on 03/17/2009 9:47:56 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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See the comment by poster named allthatglitters...on the marketwatch website.
10 posted on 03/17/2009 9:48:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's been a bumpy year for GLD

Chart for SPDR Gold Shares (GLD)

 

11 posted on 03/17/2009 9:49:16 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: rednesss

Kind of but worse, there was a fake gold investment company that where selling gold ‘shares’ only to find out, there was no gold and the person selling the ‘shares’ was just pocketing the money.. Sadly, gold scams are pretty popular..

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_gold16.42f3198.html

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/3C4F90AC7D5792CB86257564000433D1?OpenDocument

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/03/05/2009-03-05T213327Z_01_N05333215_RTRIDST_0_FRAUD-GOLD-PROBES.html

http://www.fraudaid.com/Dictionary-of-Financial-Scam-Terms/gold.htm

http://www.cashforgoldscams.com/

Stuff like this make people cautious when they hear about investing in gold.. Not saying there is an inherent problem with gold, these are just reasons why people don’t all go out and invest in it.. scams being one..


12 posted on 03/17/2009 9:50:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SeaHawkFan

Even if you have possession, then you have storage and security issues, also the higher tax rate when you sell physical gold.. good as an insurance policy for some of your capital, but not the magic pill some folks try to sell it as.


13 posted on 03/17/2009 9:51:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Ah, the Bernie Madoff investment plan.


14 posted on 03/17/2009 9:52:14 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Retreat of the gold bugs?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Those of us who mine it are so busy we haven’t had time to post on FR!


15 posted on 03/17/2009 9:52:28 AM PDT by radioman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Perhaps they’re getting concerned that Zero is channeling Roosevelt again and is getting ready to outlaw ownership like FDR did.


16 posted on 03/17/2009 9:52:48 AM PDT by graywaiter (You can't multiply wealth by dividing it.............Dr. Adrian Rogers)
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To: rednesss

..the other one I didn’t post is people being sold fake or false purity gold coins.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-33016870_ITM

They are told it is 99% pure only to find it is gold plate over copper.


17 posted on 03/17/2009 9:54:30 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SeaHawkFan
I submit that while a bank safety deposit box may be needed for some items,they are hardly under your control.The bank can refuse to allow you to access that box ,or the government can legally block your access.

Only that which you can access without the approval and co-operation of others is really yours in an emergency.

Possessing paper that says you have ownership rights in gold stored somewhere else strikes me as a silly idea!

I also believe gold would lose a lot of value in a complete breakdown.Say you have a hundred Krugerands and I have a gun,ammo,and a case of beans;just how much will you pay for some of those beans?And that presumes I am willing to sell you beans and not just take your gold or watch you starve and then take your gold.

18 posted on 03/17/2009 9:56:54 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: mnehring

Ah, the Montel Williams/Obama coin investment plan. You too can own a piece of history.....


19 posted on 03/17/2009 9:57:04 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

20 posted on 03/17/2009 9:58:34 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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