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To: ohioman
than you have a basic misunderstanding of what a DOGFIGHT in the near future entails.

Outmoded air combat...RADAR technology is so advanced there is no need for dogfighting skills....

107 posted on 03/17/2009 7:34:05 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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Sorry there will always be dogfights... I wish you morons go after the social welfare programs rather than the military...


110 posted on 03/17/2009 7:38:50 AM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: Getsmart64

I believe that was the thinking with missles in the ‘60s. As a result the F-4 had no guns. How’d that work out for them? Saying that the Air Force no longer has to worry about dogfights is like saying the Army or Marines no longer have to worry about hand to hand combat.


115 posted on 03/17/2009 7:48:08 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Getsmart64
"Outmoded air combat...RADAR technology is so advanced there is no need for dogfighting skills...."

You have just proved you are too ignorant to comment on this subject.

122 posted on 03/17/2009 8:32:07 AM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: Getsmart64
Outmoded air combat...RADAR technology is so advanced there is no need for dogfighting skills....

They said that crap in Vietnam.

135 posted on 03/17/2009 9:23:46 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: Getsmart64

Folks, we need these weapon systems, and we are going to need them all.

The F22 is a critical aircraft, it is an Air Superiority Fighter. People say it is a relic of the Cold War. They have not a single damned clue as to what they are talking about. They think that because the USSR went the way of the Dodo, then we don’t need to prepare for an enemy that is actually going to stand up to us with modern hardware and well trained personnel.

We DO need aircraft that can carry ordinance, but we need an aircraft that can control the sky, or our helicopters, Ospreys, F15s, F18s and anything else will be at a severe risk if we have to fight a dedicated, smart opponent who chooses to challenge us in the sky with decent hardware.

Our military has been and is successful because it owns the battlefield in nearly all dimensions, most importantly, the air. We don’t control the air, we can’t fly our helicopters, they are sitting ducks. We can’t fly our E3 Sentrys or JSTAR aircraft. We can’t fly the AC-130 gunships because they would be big fat targets in a contested airspace. All this is predicated on controlling the sky.

We have been lucky to this point. But history shows we won’t be lucky forever, and the way we combat that is by being prepared. It has served us well for fifty years.

But that is all changing, so we better hunker down. There is blood and anguish ahead for all of us, and our military is going to be asked to perform on a shoestring. There will be more blood and anguish ahead for them. In these times, more than ever they will be the “point of the spear”. We should be ashamed as a country for letting this man and his radical ilk get into the machinery of government.


139 posted on 03/17/2009 9:42:34 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Getsmart64

“Outmoded air combat...RADAR technology is so advanced there is no need for dogfighting skills....”

Wrong my friend. Go ask any fighter Pilot if dogfighting skills are needed? It must be since this is what they spend part of their time training for. However, it’s not like WWII. In these dogfights, the enemy aircraft will most likely never see the F-22.


140 posted on 03/17/2009 9:58:59 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Getsmart64
RADAR technology is so advanced there is no need for dogfighting skills....

Microsoft Flight Simulator is not generally recognized as an authoritative source on this subject.

154 posted on 03/17/2009 10:25:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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