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Red Cross report says detainees at CIA 'black sites' were tortured (BDS Barf Alert)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/16/2009 | Jonathan Adams

Posted on 03/16/2009 4:57:40 PM PDT by markomalley

The confidential report, published Sunday, could bolster calls for legal action against the Bush administration.

By Jonathan Adams

posted March 16, 2009 at 10:35 am EST

A daily summary of global reports on security issues.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) concluded in 2007 that US methods to extract information from prisoners at secret CIA jails as part of the "war on terror" amounted to torture, according to excerpts from a confidential report published on the website of the The New York Review of Books on Sunday.

With US President Barack Obama on record as backing the prosecution of officials involved in "clear instances of wrongdoing," the report could fuel calls for such legal action.

Though allegations of the torture of terror suspects at CIA-run "black sites" have been widely detailed before, the Red Cross report has "an unusual claim to authenticity," the article's author, Mark Danner, wrote in an op-ed for The New York Times.

The article in the Times quoted the report's conclusion:

The allegations of ill-treatment of the detainees indicate that, in many cases, the ill-treatment to which they were subjected while held in the CIA program, either singly or in combination, constituted torture. In addition, many other elements of the ill-treatment, either singly or in combination, constituted cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.

The International Committee of the Red Cross interviewed detainees in late 2006 after they had been moved to the US detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. The report was not for public release, but for top CIA and other US government officials' eyes only. It was given to them in February 2007 and labeled "confidential."

The Review article ended by noting that many human rights advocates "urge investigations and prosecutions" of Bush officials who adopted the antiterror methods alleged


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bushderangement; cia; gwot; icrc; rendition
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I somehow have a feeling that they won't stop the drums beating until they have satisfaction.

The question I have is this: if one of them gets impatient at Ø (I don't think Ø will actually want to open that can of worms) and takes a shot at Bush...how will Ø react?

1 posted on 03/16/2009 4:57:41 PM PDT by markomalley
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This is the second reason I stopped giving blood at the red cross and just started donating it to the local hospital.


2 posted on 03/16/2009 4:59:19 PM PDT by utherdoul
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The problem seems to be that since they have been tortured, any information they provide - even if accurate - in inadmissible in any court of law. So they cannot be tried for their crimes using that evidence.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 5:00:24 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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US methods to extract information from prisoners at “secret CIA jails” ....................... What am I missing here? They can’t be too secret if they know about them and can make comments on how bad things are there.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 5:01:37 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fear the return of The Cleaver Family.)
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could bolster calls for legal action against the Bush administration. ...................... Now, that is what it is really about!!!!


5 posted on 03/16/2009 5:03:26 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fear the return of The Cleaver Family.)
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has there actually been a single documented case of ‘torture’ yet??


6 posted on 03/16/2009 5:04:38 PM PDT by GeronL (....and I won't let it happen again!)
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has there actually been a single documented case of ‘torture’ yet??

PUHLEESE...don't let the facts get in the way of the allegations. The International Committee of the Red Cross said it. Therefore, it must be Truth, irrespective of the facts in the case.

Got it straight, yet?

7 posted on 03/16/2009 5:06:39 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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This is the second reason I stopped giving blood at the red cross and just started donating it to the local hospital.

Me too. I give at Indiana Blood Center.

8 posted on 03/16/2009 5:06:59 PM PDT by digger48
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To: worst-case scenario

There is no problem if the information they give helps to prevent future terrorist actions. In a foreign country you can kill the terrorists.

In the US, Clinton and Obama give them pardons. That is the problem.

Solution: Key them in a foreign country or shoot them.
Hey mahn, no problem!


9 posted on 03/16/2009 5:07:29 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Note to the ICRC: the Taliban, al-Queda, etc. would not only torture you (whether you had any intel or not), but would cut your stinking head off just for shits and grins.

But I digress, fact of the matter is, these terrorists should have been shot in the field according to the Geneva Conventions you so gladly pronounce.

Ya'all are a bunch of richard craniums.

5.56mm

10 posted on 03/16/2009 5:09:13 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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DITTO


11 posted on 03/16/2009 5:12:01 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: markomalley

Rumor is that the Red Cross did not leak this story....find out who did and you will learn more about why this is a big deal.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 5:12:08 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: utherdoul

My travels have disqualified me from giving blood, but it would have given me some pleasure to give them some other reason.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 5:15:24 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
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To: GeronL

>has there actually been a single documented case of ‘torture’ yet??

Yep...it’s called living under an Obama regime.


14 posted on 03/16/2009 5:15:50 PM PDT by max americana
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More panties on the head? We should be ashamed for such torture...


15 posted on 03/16/2009 5:17:19 PM PDT by TheDon (B.O. stinks!)
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These guys do use their words carefully. "Amounted to" torture isn't torture. "Constituted" may or may not be. Without specifics we can't tell.

Cutting off somebody's head with a dull knife, though - that's torture.

16 posted on 03/16/2009 5:20:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Some islamofacist terrorist that want to destroy my Nation and kill my fellow citizens were what the red cross calls tortured?
And your point was what????


17 posted on 03/16/2009 5:24:38 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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Red Cross report says detainees at CIA 'black sites' were tortured

I certainly hope these scumbags were tortured, even if only pour encourager les autres.

18 posted on 03/16/2009 5:28:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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WHO GIVES A S*** ABOUT THE TORTURE OF TERRORISTS. DID THEY NOT TORTURE AMERICANS AND ALLIED COUNTRIES CITIZENS? DO THEY NOT PREACH A HATRED OF THE VERY PRINCIPLES AMERICA AND MANY OF HER ALLIES STAND FOR? THAN WHAT DO WE CARE IF THESE ENEMIES OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY ARE PUNISHED JUSTIFIABLE?


19 posted on 03/16/2009 5:33:21 PM PDT by FutureRocketMan (MANDATORY TORTURE FOR ALL TERRORISTS)
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To: markomalley

I don’t donate to the Red Cross anymore. They’ve become too political.


20 posted on 03/16/2009 5:45:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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