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To: Oldexpat

Hahahaha.. its also part of the reason why California schools are ranked DEAD LAST in the nation.

You create an artificial taxing structure, that doesn’t tie remotely to reality, and then the services funded by it are woafully underfunded and continue to deteriorate.

While I hate pols, the prop 13 system is laughable, its not sustainable and never was.


9 posted on 03/16/2009 10:23:38 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Disagree—Prop 13 was sustainable. The spending in California is what’s 1—unsustainable, 2—killing California.


20 posted on 03/16/2009 10:47:48 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: HamiltonJay
I used to think prop 13 was a good idea. Then I read Progress and Poverty by Henry George and learned the error of my ways.
23 posted on 03/16/2009 10:52:22 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: HamiltonJay

#1 - California is not dead last in schools.
California is certainly lower than it should be based on spending, but it is not last either. It’s an absurd statement completely unsupported by any meaningful data. Check the national report card, the census data for education attainment, or any number of widely used statistical compendiums and you will find CA near the 40-43 rank - low yes, dead last, certainly not. Capitalizing it doesn’t make it true.

#2 - Prop 13 works - anything that limits how much $$ the politicians can squeeze out of the public is a good thing.

Californians are not under-taxed by any means. The State doesn’t need more money, it needs to get a handle on spending. Pet projects and political wish list programs are the hallmark of the CA state budget, perhaps even more so than the federal budget.

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Sidenote:
I really truly and honestly get very tired of people who look for reasons to bash California without having any real knowledge of the people or the place.
(You may or may not be one of those people, I don’t know, so apologies in advance if my vent offends.)


25 posted on 03/16/2009 10:58:47 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: HamiltonJay
Hahahaha.. its also part of the reason why California schools are ranked DEAD LAST in the nation.

No, the quality of the schools in California is because of incompetent teachers and massive corruption (read unions) and waste.

Schools run by religions and homeschooling spend considerably less per student and the quality of the education is far above that of government schools.

30 posted on 03/16/2009 11:02:48 AM PDT by Syncro (I'd rather regret something I did instead of regretting not doing it.)
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To: HamiltonJay

In other words, you oppose a system of generally lower taxes — which is what Prop. 13 produced.

What the story doesn’t emphasize is how property taxes did not increase nearly as quickly as home prices during period of skyrocketing home prices.


42 posted on 03/16/2009 11:27:26 AM PDT by Calif Conservative ( rwr and gwb backer)
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To: HamiltonJay
You create an artificial taxing structure, that doesn’t tie remotely to reality, and then the services funded by it are woafully underfunded and continue to deteriorate.

You're not a politician, are you?
That is an asinine comment.

I'll let people figure it out for themselves; if you chart inflation vs increases in expenditures for education, the result speaks for itself.

"Woefully underfunded?"

Bullshit!*

*BULLSHIT

44 posted on 03/16/2009 11:28:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Hahahaha.. its also part of the reason why California schools are ranked DEAD LAST in the nation.

From this "analysis," I would have sworn yours was.

There is no correlation between spending and performance. None.

67 posted on 03/16/2009 4:13:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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