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Missouri report on militias, terrorists draws criticism
Kansas City Online ^ | March 14, 2009 | The Associated Press

Posted on 03/15/2009 7:53:29 PM PDT by GoldStandard

A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.

The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.

"It seems like they want to stifle political thought," said Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians. "There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don't support violence as a means to any ends."

But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted.

Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report comes from publicly available, trend data on militias. It was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, a "fusion center" in Jefferson City that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. The center, which opened in 2005, was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said.

"All this is an educational thing," Hotz said of the report. "Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it's our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement."

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: alarmism; goldstandard; keywordabuse; miac; sincemar92009; witchhunts
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To: GoldStandard
Um, how about gangs, guys? Don't you think these are a bit more of a threat than the militia movement? They aren't exactly America-lovers in the inner cities.
21 posted on 03/15/2009 8:38:28 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Kenyan Keynesian will bankrupt this nation.)
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To: GoldStandard
uh-oh! I just bought 8 bumper stickers from here.


22 posted on 03/15/2009 8:38:33 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: GoldStandard

This sort of funny coming from Missouri. Seems to me that the Governor of that particular state has the power to conscript from the “unorganized militia of Missouri”, and even use it to replace the National Guard if it is mobilized outside of the state.

As I recall, the militia in Missouri has a long history of citizen support for the state. Sounds like they may be just another casualty caused by the epidemic of PC mentality.


23 posted on 03/15/2009 8:38:45 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: Jack Black
I don't think all cops are the enemy, but some are, and we don't usually know which ones we deal with on the road until we are in that situation.

To protect myself, especialy in this economy with local and state municipalities in debt, I have a tape recorder in my truck at all times. I always refuse consent searches. I also know this sentence very well if I am ever detained or arrested. "I wish to speak with my attorney."

24 posted on 03/15/2009 8:40:04 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Obama = Jimmy Carter II)
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To: GoldStandard
"Troopers have been shot by members of groups"

List the groups then. I can think of at least one. And it was started by presidential friend, Bill Ayers.

25 posted on 03/15/2009 8:42:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I looked at the document, the format was not that friendly, and you had to register with service to download the .pdf. I declined to do that.

It appears it was written by an individual or group of “goobers”. A lot of what it said was accurate, but much of it was really dumb. Really dumb.

It was written in “Bureaucrat Language of the left”. Stated that the loss of family farms was the reason for the previous build-up in the Militia movement. It was not. It had to do with the “Slick Willie” administration, and his actions. The movement died down after the OKC bombing.

When Clinton was no longer in office there was no reason for them to exist. Until recently.

I do not know a single person who is a member, but I know they exist and are growing. Obozo’s crowd is the reason. Pure Commies are all over the administration, and I believe that Obozo is one, Born & Bred.


26 posted on 03/15/2009 8:44:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: GoldStandard

Reading that document was somewhat chilling.

Much of the stuff they associate with “anti-government” activity I hear people speak, and read on the internet every day, and none of it is by “anti-government” people. Hell, whoever wrote that document would label FR as some militia group, or anti-government conspirators.

This is the 90s all over again. The anti-government “militia” bogyman is back!


27 posted on 03/15/2009 8:44:52 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, and Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.

But no one cares, because he is a leftie.


28 posted on 03/15/2009 8:45:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Here are images of the document, posted on another forum:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=843847


29 posted on 03/15/2009 8:52:17 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: GoldStandard

Yep, here it is right here. Looks like the militia members of Missouri include just about every able bodied citizen between 17 and 64 years of age. So, is Missouri going to change their state statutes now? Can’t have those nasty militia members hanging about!

Missouri Revised Statutes,

41.050. The militia of the state shall include all able-bodied citizens and all other able-bodied residents, who, in the case of the unorganized militia and the Missouri reserve military force, shall be more than seventeen years of age and not more than sixty-four, and such other persons as may upon their own application be enrolled or commissioned therein, and who, in the case of the organized militia, shall be within the age limits and possess the physical and mental qualifications prescribed by law or regulations for the reserve components of the armed forces of the United States, except that this section shall not be construed to require militia service of any persons specifically exempted by the laws of the United States or the state of Missouri.


30 posted on 03/15/2009 8:53:23 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: Texas Fossil
"I looked at the document, the format was not that friendly, and you had to register with service to download the .pdf. I declined to do that."

I didn't have to "register".

31 posted on 03/15/2009 8:58:01 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MissouriConservative; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
32 posted on 03/15/2009 9:07:59 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: djsherin; rabscuttle385; traviskicks
Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views

BUMP.
33 posted on 03/15/2009 9:11:23 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Force of Truth
The Tenth Amendment

34 posted on 03/15/2009 9:21:58 PM PDT by Syncro (I'd rather regret something I did instead of regretting not doing it.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I didn't have to "register".

I meant that to download the .pdf version of the document I would have to register. I could view it without doing so.

Regards,

Texas Fossil

35 posted on 03/15/2009 9:26:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: GoldStandard

Isn’t this profiling? Now we can’t be doing this can we? If this was a lesson in profiling a minority group who wear berets and raised right hand fists there would be MSM all over it as a racists profiling.


36 posted on 03/15/2009 9:26:14 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: GoldStandard

Ever since the Dems got control of Missouri, it has been heading to fascism.

Remind me to stay out of the “Show Me State”.

I’d like to show you that I was a pro-American journalist in Vietnam but you might think I’m an anti-communist terrorist.

I’d like to tell you that my son fought in Iraq but you might think he’s a right-wing fanatic (Forget about the Presidential Unit citation for operations under enemy fire, and forget that he is a cop).

You might shoot me for having a McCain-Palin sticker, or for talking to his father, then CINCOMPAC during the Vietnam war.

You might shoot me for risking my life as an undercover operative in leftwing extremist and treasonous groups, as well as exposing the KKK/American Nazis, and old Nazis SS murderers.

You might consider me an extremist for saying “Never Again” after having lost all my European family to the firing squads and gas ovens of Belzec and Auschwitz.

What the f*ck is going on in Missouri?

Screw the Carnahans and their leftwing idiocy. Bring back John Ashcroft. He’s a loyal American I could trust.


37 posted on 03/15/2009 9:29:22 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MissouriConservative

Also bearing in mind the Democratic DA’s in STL City and County who threatened to prosecute any so-called “false” political advertising against the Annoited One.

It’s 1984 in the Show-Me State.


38 posted on 03/15/2009 9:33:20 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: MissouriConservative

http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14686


39 posted on 03/15/2009 9:38:12 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: MissouriConservative
obama tried to stop free speech in Missouri during the campaign. I'm sure you will remember when you read from my link above.

Matt Blunt told obama to grow up.

40 posted on 03/15/2009 9:44:09 PM PDT by BARLF
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