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To: chesley; Squidpup; TaraP; Quix; topcat54; Jo Nuvark

You were saying — “Let us hope not. The Palstinian project should be rejected, and the Palestinians assimilated into the general Arab populations. This is the only just solution to the I/P conflict.”

Here’s the *problem* with that solution you just provided. The other countries do *not* have to take anyone from outside their country, into their own country. No one can make them. And there’s no real incentive or benefit to them to do so, anyway. So, why should they have a thing to do with taking in the people who are currently living in the P.A. (Palestinian Authority) areas?

These other countries *are not a party* to the problem of (1) Israel and (2) the P.A. controlled areas. They are *outsiders* and do not have a direct part in it.

Let’s say you ask Egypt to take all the people in Gaza. Do you think they would do it? No way! Okay, how about Jordan taking the people on the so-called “West Bank”? Would they do it? No way. Jordan fought a war with the terrorists in 1970 (i.e., “Black September”) to get rid of them and kick them out of Jordan. So, you think Jordan wants them back again? No way!

And how about Lebanon? Do you think that Lebanon wants a bunch of terrorist to upset the fragile balance they’ve got right now, by adding a million or more terrorists to their country? No way!

Do you think Syria wants them? No way! How about Saudi Arabia. Not a chance! LOL... No one wants them.

SO..., where are they going to go? :-) *Absolutely nowhere!* They’re staying right there in Israel, the so-called “occupied territories” of Israel.

AND..., it’s a good thing it’s called “occupied terrorities” — because if it weren’t and this land was *really* “Israel proper” then all these Muslim terrorists and their families *would be able to vote* in Israel. Can you imagine what about three million more Muslim terrorists and their families would do to the “voting” in Israel? It would *wipe out Israel* in one or two elections.

Either they have a *two-state solution* and the terrorists get their own state, and thus they cannot vote in Israel — or — you have a *one-state solution* in which Israel takes over all the land, and all these people become Israeli citizens (by “right” at that time, obviously, because they “live in the land” and you can’t deprive people the right of voting in the land where you live). So, with the one-state solution — Israel *disappears* in just one or two elections and the whole area (of Israel) becomes *Muslim* and Sharia law is instituted and the name gets changed from “Israel” to “Palestine”.

Now — that — is the problem you have...


284 posted on 03/17/2009 7:22:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I ALWAYS learn something from your posts.


285 posted on 03/17/2009 10:41:43 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Star Traveler

Excellent perspective of the current political reality.


287 posted on 03/18/2009 1:52:24 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Star Traveler
I didn't say that it was doable; I just said it was the only just solution. And I stand by that.

It was at the encouragement of their fellow Arabs that the refugees fled their ‘homeland’ to begin with. Surely, they have some moral obligation to them then? I would say that they DO have a part in this. And after all, they claim to be their ‘brothers’ and fellow muslims. Shouldn't they show them some compassion?

If nothing else, most of these people were under the jurisdiction of Jordan until the 1967 war. Doesn't Jordan have a special obligation to them? Why not?

Further, few of these Arabs had been in Palestine to begin with. They only began to immigrate when the Jews began to make the land to bloom. Seems like their ancestral lands would want to help their ethnic brothers.

OK, there is a lot of hypocrisy here on the Ara side.

Actually, I have no real objection to a two-state solution. It's just that the Arabs don't really want one. They've had plenty of chances to have one and have spurned them all. The losers of a war do not set the terms of a peace treaty, ecvept of course, in this case.

Why should the Arabs get back all the land they lost in 1967? Why should they get back Jerusalem? This wouod make Israel as vulnerable as it was at that time, when Arab armies felt free to launch a war of extermination every few years.

But the real sticker is the ‘right of return’. AS long as that is their demand, there can be no peace without the genocide of the Israelis.

So. Until the palestinian arabs are willing to make peace, they should have to pay the price. And the only way out is for the other Arab states to take them in. Whick, you are correct, they won't.

Islam, the religion of peace.

288 posted on 03/18/2009 7:29:46 AM PDT by chesley (A pox on both their houses. I've voted for my last RINO.)
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To: Star Traveler

Plenty truth in your post.

However . . . why take them in Jordan or Saudia Arabia?

Because they are Muslim “brothers” and were Jordanians. And because they’ve abused them for lo these many years as pawns

STRICTLY FOR PRIDE.

But that’s speaking sanity. They are not interested in sanity.

They are interested in pride and conquest.

Their hearts are evil toward Israel and they will pay accordingly.


290 posted on 03/18/2009 8:11:41 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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