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Obama Requires YOU to SERVE, H.R.1388, "The Give Act" to reform the National Service Laws
The Library of Congress THOMAS ^ | March 14, 2009 | joygrace

Posted on 03/14/2009 2:03:28 PM PDT by joygrace

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To: Ezekiel

How many people saw that sign he is standing behind and took it to read “Making America Operate Better” instead of “Making America get off the couch and take care of people who won’t get off the couch”?


701 posted on 03/15/2009 4:23:18 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: bootless; IrishPennant
We are in an asymmetrical war of ideas. It is critical that we not fight the last war, and that we understand that 0 and Co. are not fighting by our rules. We cannot afford to fight the war of ideas, dressed in red coats and marching in a straight line. Aim small, miss small.

I agree. I like the way you think. Please expand. I'd love to hear your next steps. Awareness is the key. Congress seems to be sneaking this Bill in without our knowledge. Forget about agreement.
702 posted on 03/15/2009 4:26:14 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: Boucheau

Silence is strange indeed. I get that same uneasy feeling that I can’t quite detect either. I mentioned it upthread when people were looking to McCain (I know... McCain, but still!) for a leader and instead he said Obama would make a fine president.

Not to mention NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING.

I’m going to be honest here, the silence has reaffirmed my belief in end days. That so many can seem so “koolaid” driven for lack of better cliche is startling.


703 posted on 03/15/2009 4:36:44 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: HotLead61

“As with Esther, some have “come into the Kingdom for such a time as this.”

I mentioned upthread about my friend, who concedes I could probably very well be right about my assumptions with Obama, that I will put myself in danger. I didn’t quite understand what she meant. I said “Thank God there were people 200 odd years ago willing to put themselves in danger”. The expression on her face told me she understood, but this is from a friend who is a self described anarchist! I guess it’s as long as it’s a protect from myself anarchy.


704 posted on 03/15/2009 4:39:41 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: smokingfrog; HollyB

I listened to the first 35 minutes of what sounds like Chapter 2 of “The Give Act.”

It looks like the Senator John McCain “may help push it through,” as Hatch mentions in the hearing on the video.” DISGUSTING. Words escape me. I bet they haven’t read the Bill. Who do they think they are to dress this up and say it is all about “What you can do for your country...” crap.

The audacity is they feel in their words it is the Government’s job to “encourage our citizens to devote significant time to volunteer.”

Volunteering is a virtue we have inside all of us. I don’t need the Government to empower me to volunteer. Right?

They are kidding themselves if they think this is not creating another level of Government just to create volunteer opportunities. Hatch said, “with modest amount of Federal money.” What?

“...snip...Also on the authorizing front, the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee yesterday held a very positive hearing on the Next Generation of National Service.”

I can’t tell if this is the Senate coming together to rally support for HR 1388 or if there is another piece of spending legislation coming afterwards. A Chapter 2 or not.

Anyone please jump in here and straighten me out.

Thank you.

Here is the hearing I reference-

http://help.senate.gov/Hearings/2009_03_10_b/2009_03_10_b.html


705 posted on 03/15/2009 4:46:40 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: joygrace
Coming soon, to a county near you.

The brave men in Arlington cemetery must be rolling over about now.

706 posted on 03/15/2009 4:47:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: anglian

“America is facing unprecedented challenges – the economy, health care, energy, schools in need of improvement and more. With our public needs intensifying in this recession, there’s no better time to support and energize community service and volunteerism to help our country get through this economic crisis, restore confidence and prepare our nation for the future. “

Yeah, anyone else doubt this economic “crisis” wasn’t manufactured? Not that it doesn’t exist, it does. But who put it in motion?


707 posted on 03/15/2009 4:47:11 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: EBH

I have been studying the Resistance Movement in WWII. I am learning a lot. Were it not for the resistance movement, the two soldiers who escaped from Auschwitz would not have made it to (can’t remember where) and told of the deaths going on that no one knew about. Even then it was several months before the Allies struck. But the Resistance moved the 2 jews through the countryside.


708 posted on 03/15/2009 4:52:07 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: SkyPilot; Las Vegas Ron
Your painful picture reminds me of something a wise Freeper just shared with me.

“Freedom requires eternal vigilance.” by Las Vegas Ron

So true. Congress needs to step away from the table and not touch anything. They are dismantling our Freedoms inch by inch.
709 posted on 03/15/2009 4:52:59 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: bootless

ABSOLUTELY! Let’s not be the British and expect a neat little war with neat little lines with neat little rules.

All rules are off in this one.


710 posted on 03/15/2009 4:54:08 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: joygrace; txhurl

This is basically a “draft for volunteer service” that will FORCE people to work. You think most of the “food stamp / welfare moms” are going to want to work when they have been sitting on their fat butts for years?

Come on, he promised them a full gas tank and a free house. If he or the dims expect their base to have to work for anything, their ratings will sink faster than a lead balloon.


711 posted on 03/15/2009 4:54:14 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

You assume it will be them volunteering. As always the rules will be for the ones who are apt to follow the rules. Same concept with gun control.


712 posted on 03/15/2009 4:55:48 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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2007
713 posted on 03/15/2009 5:00:01 AM PDT by anglian
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To: joygrace

“Language to designate 9/11 as a National Day of Service and Remembrance (has been included as an important provision)” Well how thoughtful. If it was so important then why not propose it stand by itself? Profit on tragedy!


714 posted on 03/15/2009 5:06:21 AM PDT by anglian
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To: napscoordinator

You don’t have a problem with forcing people to volunteer? It’s not longer volunteering- it’s servitude to the state- aka socialism.

This is the problem with socialism to begin with...it all sounds so harmless, sometimes even noble. The problem is the way in which it erodes liberty and freedom. All the rights and responsibilities of the INDIVIDUAL are now in the hands of the collective/state.

I highly recommend this piece:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2206889/posts


715 posted on 03/15/2009 5:10:01 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: JavaJumpy
"Explain to me why the media is so determined to butt into the Palins’ personal lives when they could be - and should be - reporting this?"

You took the words right out of my mouth. Well, the newspapers aren't reporting on it so the television news media probably has no idea this Bill is on the Floor on Tuesday.

Even if the papers did report on it, the spin would be the Obama-spin=deceit, deception, deflect and manipulate...and lie at all costs.

I hope the Conservative Radio Talk Shows drive this out of the darkness on MONDAY.

I am not sure they know about it. Congress needs to feel the pressure of our disgust.
716 posted on 03/15/2009 5:10:35 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: anglian

Pictures speak volumes.


717 posted on 03/15/2009 5:12:39 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: Arthur McGowan
This seems appropriate, since we are moving from democracy to totalitarianism. We can help them build democracy, because of our experience with democracy, and they can help us build totalitarianism because of their experience with totalitarianism.

Sounds about right. Clueless people in Government. I wonder how "TERM LIMITS" can be instituted?

Does it start at the state level? Do we have to get a petition? I am so ready to WAKE these idiots up.

Why do I think the UN will be part of this equation. I will have to go back to the Bill and re-read to see if there is a connection somewhere hiding????
718 posted on 03/15/2009 5:34:37 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: mojitojoe; joygrace

Here’s the vidclip of that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s


719 posted on 03/15/2009 5:35:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: Jukeman

See the tagline I’ve been running for that last 4-6 months.

I’m not at all happy how it is playing out, needless to say.


720 posted on 03/15/2009 5:38:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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