[Velveeta]

I responded that a Certification of Live Birth, now issued by Hawaii and in various other incarnations by many other states, fulfills the qualifications set forth by the DOS. It has "a raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal." It has "the registrar's signature." It has "the date the certificate was filed in the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of...birth."

And I responded that you are incorrect. A CertificaTION is a computer generated abstract short form.

The DOS states:

Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

Is this the hill you wish to stand on for this fight?

I'm not doing any hill standing, just correcting your error in reporting.

[curiosity]

Apparently, Velveeta doesn't understand that the word "some" does not mean "all."

[browardchad]

How does it help anyone, or any cause, to keep insisting on something that's not true?

Is it so important to win an argument that the facts just get trampled in the process?

There's really not much point to continuing this discussion.