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To: Soothesayer

I can think of one. Romans 8. The whole chapter is great evidence of the power sin has over the creation, as well as the futility of works for salvation but I’ll just give you what you’re specifically looking for.

Rom 8:19-22 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

And incase you might wonder if “creation” is refering to humans. Verse 23......

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

And here’s another. All of Isaiah 11
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=11&v=1&t=KJV

Honestly I think this argument is grasping at straws.


159 posted on 03/12/2009 5:32:44 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

“For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.”

That much is true about the period we are living in but that doesn’t seem to be anything specific about death before the fall or is it? Also, Isaiah is referring to the world that is to come, right?


160 posted on 03/12/2009 6:00:50 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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