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(Phoenix) Gun Dealer Accused Of Selling To Cartels
cbsnews.com ^ | March 9, 2009 | Ben Tracy

Posted on 03/10/2009 4:48:41 PM PDT by kellynla

CBS) In Phoenix Monday, a gun dealer went on trial for supplying assault rifles to Mexican drug gangs who are locked in a bloody war with authorities -- and each other. CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy reports on a case that's being watched closely in both the United States, and in Mexico.

In the escalating drug war south of the border, Mexican cartels supply the drugs, but the guns largely come from the United States.

"Firearms trafficking to Mexico is a huge problem," says Phoenix ATF agent William Newell. "Drugs go north, guns come south."

George Iknadosian is accused of being a top gun-supplier. When government agents raided his Phoenix gun shop last May, they found hundreds of weapons allegedly destined for Mexico. He's now on trial, accused of knowingly selling more than 700 guns to so-called straw buyers - U.S. citizens who buy the guns legally and then turn them over to a trafficker.

"They get $100 for their trouble, and the trafficker will take the gun down to Mexico and sell it for exponentially more than they pay here," says ATF agent Peter Forcelli.

As many as 2,000 firearms are believed to cross the border into Mexico every day. And they are often assault weapons, Tracy reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; border; cartels; drugs; guns
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To: kellynla

Actually, the Clinton Administration using Chinese suppliers provided the bulk of the weaponry currently being used by gang members in our cities.


21 posted on 03/10/2009 5:06:27 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: 1rudeboy
That’s probably an Armenian surname (not Muslim).

It is Armenian. He should stick to selling rugs...or sports broadcasting. :0)

22 posted on 03/10/2009 5:14:41 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (http://isportsdigest.tripod.com)
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To: JasonC
There isn't the slightest chance a word of it is true, as written. A legal dealer made legal sales to legal buyers. The ATF then alleges that some of those buyers did something illegal, without having proved any of it, but doesn't go after them, or after their illegal purchasers, it goes after the only one involved in the entire affair, supposedly, who did everything legally. It is a transparent smear.

It's hard to believe ANYTHING the ATF alleges is true anymore. Something about this story stinks.

23 posted on 03/10/2009 5:17:49 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: kellynla

If he knowingly sold guns to cartels throw the book at him. No way in hell this should justify disarming law-abiding citizens though. What this shows is the contempt criminals have for existing gun laws, nothing else.


24 posted on 03/10/2009 5:18:20 PM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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To: kellynla; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


25 posted on 03/10/2009 5:20:38 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: nonsporting
They raided his store *last May*. They found hundreds of weapons, what a surprise, in a gun store. They got around to alleging this smear only now, 10 months later. Yeah, somehow it seems remarkably likely they are making it all up.

His real crime was probably selling SKSs or AKs or AR-15s, which the ATF doesn't want him to do. Or anyone else. So they look around for one of dozens or hundreds he sold that ended up in bad hands, not even from him, but after a subsequent sale, and then drum up something RICO-able.

26 posted on 03/10/2009 5:24:36 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: kellynla
Prosecutors allege Iknadosian offered smuggling advice to a confidential informant during a police sting at his shop in Phoenix, telling the informant to break up purchases. "If you got pulled over two is no biggie," Iknadosian is quoated as saying in a search-warrant affidavit. "Four is a question. Fifteen is what are you doing. So if you got two, hey me and a buddy are going to go out shooting."

Hopefully these informants were wired and there will be no doubt about what the owner was or was not involved in.

Anybody have a copy of the affidavit?

27 posted on 03/10/2009 5:42:03 PM PDT by bornred
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To: kellynla; All
Ahhhh, how many of you on this thread believe ANYTHING the ATF says?
28 posted on 03/10/2009 5:42:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Welcome to the Obama-Democrat Depression.)
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To: Navy Patriot

believe what you like, it has been well documented for years that the muzzies have been supplying arms to the drug cartels while the drug cartels have been supplying drugs to the muzzies...


29 posted on 03/10/2009 5:47:45 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Taking on Education
(includes Pres__ent’s remarks on Education to Hispanic Chamber of Commerce)
White House web site | Tuesday, March 10th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Posted on 03/10/2009 2:13:17 PM PDT by cc2k
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2203639/posts


32 posted on 03/10/2009 6:52:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: kellynla

Sounds like the same problem as the anti-gun US states and towns, like NYC, have. To STOP the importation of smuggled guns, LEGALIZE them locally! DUMMIES!!


33 posted on 03/10/2009 7:06:38 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 4rcane

Yes! The Wall is the answer! BUILD THE WALL! If you build it they WON’T come!


34 posted on 03/10/2009 7:09:08 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: kellynla

I figured the Mussies had a hand in this somewhere seeing that
beheading isn’t a normal execution style around here.

Obama, we know how tired you must be. Every night parties are killers but
Obama, get off your a** and do something about the frickin’ borders.

Obama, we realize that your friends/voters/future voters are far more important to you and your power grab then the lives of many innocents who are going to be (some already have) gotten caught in the middle of this war, but eventually you and your elites will not be able to set on your temporary thrones and escape these scum just as the rest of us won’t be able to.


35 posted on 03/10/2009 7:12:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to Obama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: Navy Patriot

ATF umm nope they would not be the ones out there making sure the second amendment is protected. If a sale does not pass the background check then it should be halted. Otherwise what’s the problem. Before worrying about gun transfers to Mexican thugs, maybe the gubmint can worry about those thugs being here in the first place. Just don’t let them come in.


36 posted on 03/10/2009 8:50:24 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Cowboy Bob; 1rudeboy; kellynla

According to other reports, Iknadosian is a native of Egypt.


37 posted on 03/10/2009 8:57:05 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kellynla

Sounds Armenian so more likely Christian.


38 posted on 03/10/2009 9:09:25 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: kellynla
A federal licensed dealer is selling fully automatic weapons, grenades and so forth out of his regular "inventory".

Riiight


39 posted on 03/10/2009 9:16:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: KoRn
If this is true, as written, this guy needs to be put under the jail

With BATFE making the accusations, that more than slightly unlikely, given their past record in truth telling.

40 posted on 03/10/2009 9:17:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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