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Obama, taking on unions, backs teacher merit pay
AP ^ | 3/10/09 | Philip Elliott

Posted on 03/10/2009 11:55:18 AM PDT by steve-b

President Barack Obama embraced merit pay for teachers Tuesday in spelling out a vision of education that will almost certainly alienate union backers.

A strategy that ties teacher pay to student performance has for years been anathema to teachers' unions, a powerful force in the Democratic Party. These unions also are wary of charter schools, nontraditional educational systems that they believe compete with traditional schools for tax dollars.

Obama, however, also spoke favorably of charter schools, saying that where they work, they should be encouraged....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoeducation; charterschools; nea; teacherpay; unions
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1 posted on 03/10/2009 11:55:19 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Don’t just sometimes wish we had an “Edit” function?


2 posted on 03/10/2009 11:56:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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Obama, Taking On Unions, Backs Teacher Nerit Pay

Are they paying in Nerits again?

3 posted on 03/10/2009 11:56:47 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: steve-b

related:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2203334/posts


4 posted on 03/10/2009 11:56:50 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: steve-b

a sliver of goodness.


5 posted on 03/10/2009 11:57:00 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: steve-b
What, teacher's being held accountable for student progress in school? The audacity of Hope rides again.
6 posted on 03/10/2009 11:57:09 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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Nerit, schmerit. Vat vee need to do is get asses in the school seats.

Tank you.


7 posted on 03/10/2009 11:57:32 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I wish I had an “Edit” function!


8 posted on 03/10/2009 11:58:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: steve-b
Looks like they're throwing some bones to the right today.

They are getting tired of fending off all the criticism.

9 posted on 03/10/2009 11:58:39 AM PDT by what's up
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Does that mean any great changes to the union-run schools, esp. in failing urban districts?

Doubtful - “more merit pay” is probably code for “more pay for everybody.”


10 posted on 03/10/2009 11:58:43 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: steve-b

Don’t you just hate typo’s in titles.


11 posted on 03/10/2009 12:00:22 PM PDT by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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“President Barack Obama embraced merit pay for teachers Tuesday in spelling out a vision of education that will almost certainly alienate union backers. “

All it means is seniority will get merit pay which they will tack on to their salaries. Then when they retire they will use that for their pension numbers.

If they want to give a merit increase to good teaching then they should also punish poor teaching.


12 posted on 03/10/2009 12:01:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“Are you better off than you were a month ago?”)
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Obama, Taking On Unions

Never thought I'd see words like that. Too bad it's not true. The air traffic controllers are planning on a strike soon if they don't get their demands. Then you'll see the difference between a Reagan and an Obama.

13 posted on 03/10/2009 12:01:15 PM PDT by oldbill
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It is just him talking. Do we not understand this? By the time everything is factored in and after all the negotiating is done, the public school systems will receive more money with longer days, longer school years, more freebies for ‘tha chillrun...’ and all this talk about merit pay will be in the dustbin. Just because great leader’s lips are moving, does not mean he means what he says.


14 posted on 03/10/2009 12:02:04 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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Don't be so certain Obama's "merit pay" will really be "merit-based" pay. I suspect that behind the scenes he will convince the teacher's unions that you can call just about anything "merit pay" and that 99% of teachers will receive "merit pay" boosts. We will have the same lousy teachers in the same under-performing schools. The only difference is that the "educators" will be paid more.

I am firmly convinced that the best merit pay would be to provide teachers in superbly performing schools with a 2% above inflation pay raise. Those in adequately performing schools an inflation only pay raise, and those in under-performing schools a 2% pay cut. This proposal would cause bad teachers to seek employment as pastry chefs or something they might be able to actually do.

15 posted on 03/10/2009 12:02:47 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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Those lazy, narrow-minded, activist “teachers” might actually have to educate someone under a merit system. This would help separate the wheat from the chaff.


16 posted on 03/10/2009 12:03:15 PM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds)
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"a sliver of goodness."

Don't bet on it.

The "Merit" pay will undoubtedly be based on how "Progressive" a teacher is.

And the Charter Schools will have some innocuous-sounding name, but will be designed to turn out "Community Organizers".

Never trust the Left's words. Always examine carefully what they are really up to.

17 posted on 03/10/2009 12:03:49 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: steve-b

Wink and nod, bait and switch.


18 posted on 03/10/2009 12:06:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I’ll bet all takers that this merit pay thing magically disappears without a peep before long, and if pressed Obama’s press blob will say something about how Obama is still 100% for it but blah blah blah.


19 posted on 03/10/2009 12:17:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist behind enemy lines in Boston and Cambridge)
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To: steve-b

I’ll bet all takers that this merit pay thing magically disappears without a peep before long, and if pressed Obama’s press blob will say something about how Obama is still 100% for it but blah blah blah.


20 posted on 03/10/2009 12:17:20 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist behind enemy lines in Boston and Cambridge)
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