The Socialist Roots of Naziism

Colorado State.edu ^ | 1944 | Friedrich A. Hayek

[AJMCQ]

It is a common mistake to regard National Socialism as a mere revolt against reason, an irrational movement without intellectual background. If that were so, the movement would be much less dangerous than it is. But nothing could be further from the truth or more misleading. The doctrines of National Socialism are the culmination of a long evolution of thought, a process in which thinkers have had great influence far beyond the confines of Germany have taken part. Whatever one may think of the premises from which they started, it cannot be denied that the men who produced the new doctrines were powerful writers who left the impress of their ideas on the whole of European thought. Their system was developed with ruthless consistency. Once one accepts the premises from which it starts, there is no escape from its logic. It is simply collectivism freed from all traces of an individualist tradition which might hamper its realization.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

What, then, caused these views held by a reactionary minority finally to gain the support of' the great majority of Germans and practically the whole of Germany's youth?

The National Socialist takeover of Germany wasn't accomplished by winning hearts and minds, it was done by the use of enforcement (Roehm's thugs) and the removal of opposing points of view.

[detective]

The name of the NAZI party was the National Socialist Workers Party. They were socialists. They confiscated private property, they put the means of production under the control and influence of the government, they ruled through violence and propaganda. This is what all socialists do.

[agere_contra]

Communists seek to own the means of production.

Fascists seek to control the means of production

Fascism and Communism are as far apart as two fingers on your left hand. They both produce totalitarian kleptocracies.

[stockpirate]

The Muslim world is firmly rooted in NAZI Germany. Read the website below to learn more.

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com

[stockpirate]

And a great thread here on FR discussing how the Democrats have used NAZI socialism to nationalize our engery industry.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2031070/posts

[stockpirate]

Also do a shearch here on FR using NAZI as the keyword to find many articles on this topic.

[RedMonqey]

....it was done by the use of enforcement (Roehm's thugs) and the removal of opposing points of view.

Only part of it.

It was certainly not through the bourgeoisie, but rather through the absence of a strong bourgeoisie, that they were helped to power.

To borrow from an old adage:

All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

There were plenty of good men in Germany. But they sat on their hands.

Sound familiar? If you don't already, it soon will ....

[RedMonqey]

The Muslim world is firmly rooted in NAZI Germany. Read the website below to learn more.

Muslims, as well as large parts of the Latin America find the “strong man” principle highly attractive while relieving the poor and uneducated any responsibility for themselves and their own failures.

Look no further than Chavez of Venezuela.

And They always need a scapegoat., i.e.anyone more successful than themselves. The Jews make easy victims, Well, not the Israelis. They learned the lessons of the Holocaust.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

There were plenty of good men in Germany. But they sat on their hands.

Very true...but any of those good men who spoke out found themselves in concentration camps which Hitler started establishing right after his appointment as Chancellor in January, 1933.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

The name of the NAZI party was the National Socialist Workers Party. They were socialists.

I think the party started out as socialist, but Hitler himself became the core and law of the party after he took control of it. Like Obama, Hitler made promises to everyone and then betrayed them.

For example, feigning socialist principles, he promised workers his loyalty...only to turn absolute control of labor over to management and owners of industry once he became Chancellor.

[what's up]

btt

[Reeses]

They were socialists.

Google news archive now has free newspaper articles going back 200 years. Be sure to choose the "no price" option and enter the year range you are interested in. You can read original newspaper stories on Hitler's rise to power. My take on it was that German unemployment and poverty were high due to years of socialist government and Hitler won on a "change" platform. He was a response to years of failed Obama/Carter type governance.

Conservatives have an opportunity to elect a real conservative president after Obama flames out, but also a Hitler type would have an opportunity to win also. We can't blow this one with another McCain/RINO loser.

It's refreshing to see real journalism for a change by reading old newspapers. It's hard to detect an agenda by the writers. Vanity bylines were rare back then, and narcissistic leftists looked elsewhere for employment. Nixon possibly should be blamed for the death of journalism as a profession.

[philled]

Thanks for the tip! I’m off to the newspaper archives!

[detective]

“Hitler made promises to everyone and then betrayed them.”

Can you name a single socialist who didn’t act this same way once he achieved power?

[detective]

Thanks for the info. It is always good to review the contemporary accounts of historical periods.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

Can you name a single socialist who didn’t act this same way once he achieved power?

Can you name one totalitarian/autocrat of any flavor that didn't do the same once he achieved power?

[detective]

“Can you name one totalitarian/autocrat of any flavor that didn't do the same once he achieved power?”

There are many. Two I can think of off the top of my head in the 20th Century were General Franco of Spain and Augusto Pinochet of Chile.

[Yollopoliuhqui]

The roots of socialism are bizarre. Research Freemasonry, Illuminism, synarchy, theosophy, etc.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

I am currently rereading Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and if Shirer is to be believed (he was living in Germany at this time and is thought to be an authority on the subject), Hitler sought alliances on the right and left but ultimately built his base on the right and was consider by socialists at the time to be merely a Fascist...not by any stretch a socialist.

I will see if I can find some good quotes from Shirer to make this point.