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The Republicans' Bizarre New Strategy
Forbe.com ^ | 03.04.09 | Dan Gerstein,

Posted on 03/08/2009 8:02:43 AM PDT by FreeManN

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To: lonestar67

I agree, although I did not agree with him on the amnesty thing, the things I saw that he did wrong were these:

1. Allowed himself to be blackmailed into signing bills filled with pork because the alternative would have been our military doing without or pulling out of Iraq. So I can’t fault him there. The Democrats are plain evil they will answer for this, if not in this life the next.

2. conservatives are not loyal or forgiving, they are issue oriented and do not make nice when their guy does something they don’t like. This left Bush with very little support. He was too conservative for the Rinos, and too liberal for the conservatives on some core issues.

3. He was Naive enough to think that Americans are good people who can see through the trash on television and the hate spewed from the left.

It became almost as fashionable to publicly blame Bush for anything and everything and he had no one going out there and telling the real story and most people started to assume it was true. On top of that no Republicans were sticking up for him and he is too humble to do it himself.

In the end our strengths are our weakenesses when taken to an excess. His humbleness made him a great man with dignity, his humbleness left him vulnerable to the wicked left.

We will find out in years to come if Obama staff doesn’t destroy the records that he kept us safe and the reason we didn’t know about it when it happened is because it would have put us at risk. He was willing to destroy his own legacy to save American Lifes.


101 posted on 03/08/2009 2:04:04 PM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: lonestar67; FreeManN

Yeah, I have been suspicious of FreeManN, too, but his/her/its posts are so eyerollingly juvenile I don’t bother getting agita when I accidentally read them. It’s funny how it doesn’t take long to blot out the posters who overuse the acronym “RINO” (some idiots even spell it “Rhino”) as they apply it to anybody who isn’t as conservative as Walter Williams.

To me, Lincoln Chafee was a RINO. Jim Jeffords was a RINO. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a RINO. Maybe a very small handful of others. But most of the Republicans recklessly called “RINOs” are simply cowardly, unprincipled, liberal Republicans, but Republicans just the same, albeit the kind of Republicans we need to pressure when they hold office and work to replace in primaries.

FRegards,
LH


102 posted on 03/08/2009 2:17:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ODDITHER
....he had no one going out there and telling the real story....

And who is to blame for that?

George Bush sat there like a punching bag for eight years, never having the guts to stand up and defend himself as lie after lie from the rats and their newsrooms went left unanswered. Bush’s unwillingness to stand up and fight was an eight-year slap in the face to his bewildered supporters, including me.

Bush deserves whatever "legacy" the scumbag liberal historians paint for him.

103 posted on 03/08/2009 2:20:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs

Bush was not conservative!!!
Bush was not conservative!!!
Bush was not conservative!!!

Bush was to conservatism what Obama is to a centrist.

Lower Taxes and Regulation!

Smaller Government.

Strong National Security.

Bush half a$$ed it. Should have used overwhelming force in Iraq. Never claim victory or anything for that matter.

When you get there the American people are gonna know it. Mission Acomplished should have come from the people! Like when is was actually accomplished.


104 posted on 03/08/2009 2:21:40 PM PDT by Blacksheep (Will the last business owner to leave New Jersey please kick Corzine!)
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To: ODDITHER

I think your analysis is pretty fair.

I do think that Bush could have actually won re-election in 2008. I think he chose to let everyone attack him once he was re-elected because he knew he was not up for re-election. He did make a strategic set of concessions that kept us safe, minimized financial damage sought by democrats, and greatly advanced American interests abroad.

It is a profound irony that the darker a persons skin is in this world, the more they love and adore President Bush.

Democratic governors and mayors refused to issue emergency orders in katrina in an effort to lay dead black bodies before a Bush hating press. That is extraordinarily depraved and conservatives lack the courage and fortitude to expose the horrendous conspiracy of lies that came against President Bush and continue to guarantee that a regime of ridicule will haunt anyone who rises against the Obama regime.


105 posted on 03/08/2009 2:22:50 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Israel is not the enemy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
The majority of Reps in the Senate voted against amnesty in both 2006 and 2007. In 2006 [Hagel-Martinez] Lott, Chambliss, Isakson, and Kyl voted against amnesty. The Dems voted overwhelmingly for the bills. It was 32-23 AGAINST by the Reps and 38-4 FOR the bill by the Dems in 2006. Bush sided with the Dems against the majority of his own party. Bush also helped shoot down the Sensenbrenner enforcement only bill [H.R. 4437], which had overwhelming Rep support and 20 Dems.

Sensenbrenner: Bush Turned Back on Bill Key House Republican Jim Sensenbrenner says Bush turned his back on immigration bill

106 posted on 03/08/2009 2:23:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Bush sided with the Dems against the majority of his own party.

That's the way Republicans finally voted, but some of them needed several swift kicks in the posterior before they did. The point is that if the people had not kept up the pressure, Bush would "See you at the signing."

I am not defending Bush, but I also won't trust Republicans more than I think they deserve.

107 posted on 03/08/2009 2:34:19 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Could not agree more. The part that really bothered my about Myers was that he was genuinely shocked that we were against her.
108 posted on 03/08/2009 2:40:57 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (You want me to buy heavy metal? Metallica?)
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To: All

I recognize and approve of President Bush’s good work in the War on Terror but Bush was not a financial conservative and his economic policies were obviously a disaster, not as bad as bo and the dumb demos & the rinos, but a DISASTER, nonetheless.

Bush Pros:
Patraeus/Surge—2nd term War on terror
Tax cuts
Roberts and Alito

Bush cons:

Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz—first term of war on terror
Tax cuts have an expiration date
Harriet Miers—tragedy narrowly averted
Medicare expansion
No child left behind
Poor communication/unable to inspire confidence
Not prepared for banking meltdown


109 posted on 03/08/2009 2:47:19 PM PDT by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
If I recall, you are a Ron Paul supporter, correct?

Votes are where the rubber meets the road.

110 posted on 03/08/2009 3:24:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lonestar67
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111 posted on 03/08/2009 3:40:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Instead of trying to out-Bush Bush, they should outsmart Obama... In particular, I wondered how would they win back the trust of the sensible center that thoroughly repudiated their governing approach in November... I doubt anyone outside Rush Limbaugh's reach would have ever guessed that the right's strategy for countering Obama -- and ultimately escaping the minority wilderness -- would be to out-Bush Bush... The cumulative upshot of a month's worth of coordinated Republican attacks on Obama's stimulus plan, Bobby Jindal's widely-ridiculed response to the president's address to Congress and the lock-stepped echoes heard at last week's Conservative Political Action Conference. The economic climate may have dramatically changed, as have voter attitudes about government's role, but the GOP formula has stayed almost exactly the same...
The writer's full of it. President Bush didn't have a mandate (I guess the writer missed that one) back in 2001, but had to bust some asses and did so; meanwhile, he took on domestic opponents and kept manuevering them into having to choose to appear more radical or to act like a good DINO. As the Party of Treason kept getting its ass handed to it (by the SCOTUS in 2000, by the voters in 2002 and 2004, and by "lame duck" Bush himself after the setbacks in 2006 election results -- and now, by Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al) Bush didn't win every fight, and didn't conform to the pure political agenda of anyone besides himself, we see that the long term plans of the Saudi royal family, of the 60s leftist residue, and plutocrats like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and George Soros, along with racist orgs from the 'hood, came to fruition in the election of Obama. But they have NO IDEA what to do beyond winning. And those who wouldn't vote against Obama have no idea what to do beyond whining.
112 posted on 03/08/2009 3:49:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ..

Whoops, and thanks justiceseeker93.


113 posted on 03/08/2009 3:49:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Lancey Howard; pnh102; rxsid; seekthetruth; hoosiermama; Red Steel; True Republican Patriot; ...

“GOP has no policy.”

To an uninvolved observer, they’d surmise that the apparent policy, as executed, was to get thrown out of office.”

Yes, that and the well executed rino plan to elect the 1st Islamo-Marxist-Illegal-Alien POTUS in US History.

With rinos like juan mccain, Lindsay Grahmnesty, Kyl, Chambliss, Specter, Snowe, Cornyn et al supporting him, bo does not need the demos.


114 posted on 03/08/2009 4:06:18 PM PDT by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

Oh, I think you are wrong about that; he is melting down less than 60 days in office and there is a lot of democrats who have to worry about being re-elected in 2010... the GOP plays it smart we will draw more democrats into supporting our side -— aka blocking O’s crazy plans.


115 posted on 03/08/2009 4:11:14 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“Oh, I think you are wrong about that”

WTH are you talking about.

I unlike the rinos like juan mccain, Lindsay Grahmnesty, Kyl, Chambliss, Specter, Snowe, Cornyn et al NEVER supported
BO the 1st Islamo-Marxist-Illegal-Alient POTUS in US History.

And if you think that by attacking Rush the rinos are going to get any support from true Conservatives like me, you are sadly mistaken.

So, go ahead and support UR rinos and the 1st Islamo-Marxist-Illegal-Alien POTUS in US History, but don’t tell me I am wrong because I don’t join U, Carolyn.


116 posted on 03/08/2009 4:22:02 PM PDT by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

I said I think we are going to get more democrats find their way to support the GOP in blocking Obama’s more socialist plans... I said nothing about us supporting “RINO’s”... I will say people better get their chips off their shoulders and start putting the country first and stop trying to place a scarlet letter on every one who doesn’t walk in lock step with our way of thinking... that is unless people want the country to fail... which I do not. Right now our only chance is to get support from across the aisle, so I will welcome that support no matter the form it comes in. That you do not is your right.


117 posted on 03/08/2009 4:28:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FreeManN

All the GOP needs to do is to stick together and let Obama and the Dims fall flat on his face. Then, they can point and say, “see...I told you so.”


118 posted on 03/08/2009 4:32:40 PM PDT by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Polarik

“All the GOP needs to do is to stick together and let Obama and the Dims fall flat on his face. Then, they can point and say, “see...I told you so.”

I agree but instead of sticking together the rinos are alternately attacking Rush and by association most conservatives and then supporting bo.

Rinos have taken over the Republican Party and they are ruining it.


119 posted on 03/08/2009 4:39:40 PM PDT by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

Ditto to the distain for RINOS. They should publically admit that they became a RINO solely to get elected.


120 posted on 03/08/2009 4:50:28 PM PDT by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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