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Russian scholar says US will collapse — next year
Yahoo News ^ | Wed Mar 4, 4:39 am ET | By MIKE ECKEL, Associated Press Writer Mike Eckel, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 03/07/2009 6:11:57 AM PST by BellStar

MOSCOW – If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order. Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership. "There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010,"

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To: BellStar
Than the Republic of Texas will once again kick some Mexican a$$!

Now that is a plan I can get behind. The sooner, the better.

41 posted on 03/07/2009 6:42:16 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: BellStar

America’s left wing communist party will also suffer and some may even wake up eventually. It could even mark a return to truth as God destroys the evil of the anti Christ political party and the evil they do.


42 posted on 03/07/2009 6:48:14 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: 1rudeboy

The body is dead because of sin.


43 posted on 03/07/2009 6:48:50 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: BellStar; All
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"As a globalist, [Bill] Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others."

From a 2003 Washington Post article:

"...a statement [Bill] Clinton made in February 2002, in which he told an audience in Australia, 'This is a unique moment in U.S. history, a brief moment in history, when the U.S. has preeminent military, economic and political power. It won't last forever. This is just a period, a few decades this will last.'

Clinton continued...

'In all probability, we won't be the premier political and economic power we are now' in a few decades, he said, pointing to the growth of China's economy and the growing economic strength of the European Union.

Whether the United States maintains its military supremacy, he said, depends in part on how much those other entities invest in their militaries, and Clinton said working cooperatively is essential to U.S. interests.

But he said he did not want to be misunderstood. 'I never advocated that we not have the strongest military in the world...I don't think a single soul has thought I was advocating scaling back our military.'

Source: Washington Post article from May 2003:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62253-2003Apr30&notFound=true

or find his remarks here (Talon News):
Clinton Predicts America's Decline:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/nw03/talonnews/0503/newswire-tn-050503d.htm

"'We like your president. We want to see him reelected', former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way."

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate
By Richard Poe
May 26, 2003

CHINA WILL LIKELY replace the USA as world leader, said Bill Clinton in a recent Washington Post interview. It is just a matter of time. Clinton should know. He has personally done more to build China’s military strength than any man on earth.

Most Americans have heard of the so-called "Chinagate " scandal. Few understand its deadly import, however. Web sites such as "Chinagate for Dummies" and its companion "More Chinagate for Dummies" offer some assistance. Unfortunately, with a combined total of nearly 8,000 words, these two sites – like so many others of the genre – offer more detail than most of us "dummies" can absorb.

For that reason, in the 600 words left in this column, I will try to craft my own "Idiot’s Guide to Chinagate," dedicated to all those busy folks like you and me whose attention span tends to peter out after about 750 words. Here goes.

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented little threat to the United States. Chinese missiles "couldn’t hit the side of a barn," notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America and those that made it would likely miss their targets.

Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.

China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike by proxy – equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do their dirty work, while the Chinese play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies.

In 1997, Clinton allowed China to take over the Panama Canal. The Chinese company Hutchison Whampoa leased the ports of Cristobal and Balboa, on the east and west openings of the canal respectively, thus controlling access both ways. A public outcry stopped Clinton in 1998 from leasing California’s Long Beach Naval Yard to the Chinese firm COSCO. Even so, China can now strike U.S. targets easily from their bases in Panama, Vancouver and the Bahamas.

How did China catch up so fast? Easy. We sold them all the technology they needed – or handed it over for free. Neither neglect nor carelessness are to blame. Bill Clinton did it on purpose.

As a globalist, Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others.

To this end, Clinton appointed anti-nuclear activist Hazel O’Leary to head the Department of Energy. O’Leary set to work "leveling the playing field," as she put it, by giving away our nuclear secrets. She declassified 11 million pages of data on U.S. nuclear weapons and loosened up security at weapons labs.

Federal investigators [Cox Report] later concluded that China made off with the "crown jewels" of our nuclear weapons research under Clinton’s open-door policy – probably including design specifications for suitcase nukes. Meanwhile, Clinton and his corporate cronies raked in millions.

In his book The China Threat, Washington Times correspondent Bill Gertz describes how the system worked. Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton’s campaign. In return, Clinton called off the dogs.

Janet Reno and other counterintelligence officials stood down while Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space & Communications and other U.S. companies helped China modernize its nuclear strike force.

"We like your president. We want to see him reelected," former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way.

Clinton’s top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others.

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown served as Clinton’s front man in many Chinagate deals. When investigators began probing Brown’s Lippo Group and Chinagate connections, Brown died suddenly in a suspicious April 1996 plane crash.

Needless to say, China does not share Clinton’s enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity. The Chinese look out for Number One.

"War [with the United States] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it," said Chinese Defense Minister General Chi Haotian in 2000. "The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this war." Bill Clinton has given them a good start.

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate:
http://www.richardpoe.com/column.cgi?story=125

or,
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/26/214938.shtml
(this version hasn't the necessary hyperlinks, but the above doesn't seem to be available any longer)
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Related Stories
Richard Poe, "Chinagate: The Third-Way Scandal" (June 3, 1999)
Christopher Ruddy, "Russia and China Prepare for War: Parts I - VIII," NewsMax.com (March 9 -18, 1999)

44 posted on 03/07/2009 6:50:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
It's rather disconcerting there is a good chance it's true.

I don't see it that way at all. I'd tell you the way I see it, but I don't want people to think I'm directing my comment at anyone in particular.

45 posted on 03/07/2009 6:54:26 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: BellStar
Panarin might be easy to ignore

Let's try harder, then.

46 posted on 03/07/2009 6:55:59 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: mel

Yes! The South shall rise again!!
Buy grub,gold and guns!


47 posted on 03/07/2009 6:56:45 AM PST by SonnyBubba
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To: ETL
Russia and China Prepare for War is the bottom line and Obama well Comrade's will be Comrades!
48 posted on 03/07/2009 6:57:14 AM PST by BellStar (Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
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To: kjam22; All

49 posted on 03/07/2009 6:57:29 AM PST by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: Dog Gone

Way too much. Even their old men are lean, as in underfed.


50 posted on 03/07/2009 6:58:18 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: F15Eagle

But didn’t he see? Hillary gave their foreign minister a reset button!

PEREGRUZKA!!!!!!!


51 posted on 03/07/2009 7:00:39 AM PST by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: BellStar; All
comrades will be comrades! "obvious to all but those who cannot/will not see."

For anyone who missed Glenn Beck's Mar 4, 2009 program, here's a thread I posted on it...

Communist Party Chairman (Sam Webb) appeared on FoxNews’ Glenn Beck program today (3/4/09) praising Obama!
FoxNews.com | March 4, 2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:00:15 PM by ETL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2199356/posts
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OR, just watch it now...

YouTube video of the 3/4/09 interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDslH0f9naA
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In anticipation that the link might mysteriously ‘disappear’ from the YouTube site, here is a general link to the YouTube search results for “Beck” “Sam Webb”:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=beck+sam+webb&aq=f

(I left his first name out of the search (Glenn's) because it is spelled with two ‘n’s but many people will probably spell it with one)
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"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.

The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."

http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/907/1/4/
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A Landslide Mandate For Change

Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!

We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-people’s movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all people’s movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.

The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and people’s unity.

There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.

The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.

http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/991/1/154/
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"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/election.president/index.html
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Saul Alinsky on "Change"...
From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."

Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain (LatterRain.com is a "Liberation Theology" commie-left website -etl)
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

52 posted on 03/07/2009 7:01:10 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: BellStar

If Hussein has his way the guy will be right!


53 posted on 03/07/2009 7:02:20 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: SonnyBubba

I agree except add lead. Becoming the most precious of metals!


54 posted on 03/07/2009 7:02:45 AM PST by mel
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To: 1rudeboy
I don't see it that way at all.

My post was to comment on the economic circumstance only.

You don't belive there is a concerted effort to destroy it?

Hell, it would come as now shock to me to learn that zer0 is working in harmony with the Ruskies to accomplish his goals.

Would it surprise you?

55 posted on 03/07/2009 7:07:06 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: SonnyBubba
Did anyone notice that we are in a no rain weather pattern much like it was in 1930 when the first great depression came. Can't grow food when you can't water your crops!
56 posted on 03/07/2009 7:07:22 AM PST by BellStar (Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
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To: no one in particular
.. Russia's state-guided TV channels ..
57 posted on 03/07/2009 7:07:27 AM PST by tomkat (lexington, concord, flyover)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Comrades-in-arms!
58 posted on 03/07/2009 7:09:03 AM PST by BellStar (Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
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To: BellStar

Well, if present trends continue...


59 posted on 03/07/2009 7:10:39 AM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Always my favorite of hers!

“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws”

~~Ayn Rand

60 posted on 03/07/2009 7:11:59 AM PST by BellStar (Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
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