Cindy, you are also persistent, truthful, and have been blessed
with having the right ideas.
V: "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh.
Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
Posted on 03/07/2009 3:40:30 AM PST by Cindy
Indonesia Update
In a South Jakarta courtroom this week, a Singaporean terror suspect admitted that he was part of a plot to hijack an Aeroflot aircraft from Bangkok and crash it into Singapore’s Changi International Airport.
Mohammad Hasan bin Sayanudin, alias Fajar Taslim, was testifying against two other terrorist suspects. All three are charged with killing a Christian high school teacher in South Sumatra province during 2007. They are also charged with plotting to kill two Catholic priests in 2005 and to carry out a bombing of a café in West Sumatra.
According to Sayanudin, those who were part of the Changi plot were in Bangkok when the plan was exposed in the media. He then fled Thailand and escaped to Indonesia in 2001. He moved around Indonesia before settling in Palembang during 2004. He was arrested along with nine others in mid-2008.
(Excerpt) Read more at counterterrorismblog.org ...
I am very rarely up this late, so I want to take this opportunity to tell you “THANK YOU” for everything you do.
You are one awesome lady. ;o)
Thank you Dixie Chick 2000.
I appreciate the compliment.
It’s more than a compliment.
I respect you a great deal.
Thank you, but what I am is an ordinary person that has good research skills and that’s all.
Bump.
Thank you for the bump allmost.
I’d like to contribute more. I don’t know enough about Indonesia in general.
Cindy, you are also persistent, truthful, and have been blessed
with having the right ideas.
V: "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh.
Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
"In other news ... two Indonesian officials .... requested that the U.S. government continue to detain Indonesian-born terror suspect Hambali after the U.S. closes the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.... the officials fear that Hambali will be treated as a celebrity by Indonesian religious hard-liners and could “re-energize his old movement."
I was in Thailand shortly after Hambali was captured just outside of Bangkok in 2003.
A couple weeks after he was captured the Bangkok Post reported that he had been planning to set bombs at Bangkok's Koh San Road - a HUGE magnet for Western backpacker tourists - as well as a couple other Western hangouts in the city. The Thai "tourist police" closed Koh San Road to vehicle traffic that same day (a little late, Hambali was already in custody).
The Bangkok Post also revealed that Hambali had been planning to set bombs somewhere in Vietnam, presumably also another Western target in Saigon.
Oddly, a few weeks after the above Hambali story, wifey and I were in Vietnam (south and close to the Cambodia border at Chau Doc) and were told by her family and friends that a group of "Arabs" had recently been caught trying to illegally cross the border and had been caught. Our main source was a distant family member who was a policeman in Chau Doc.
Anyway this incident was never reported (Vietnam is still a commie country) and no one knew what had happened to the "Arab" intruders.
One thing I am certain of is that they would have been handled very harshly, and were most likely turned over to American authorities.
On the scale of things completely intolerable to Vietnamese authorities, I would guess that Arab terrorists are right up there at the top.
I have lived in Indonesia for the past five years I would be happy to help you out with anything you’d like to know.
Great. What’s up?
Worth pointing out that this character is Singaporean who was planning to hijack a Russian plane in Thailand and crash it in Singapore. The only reason Indonesia is involved is because good work by the Indonesian police meant he was captured. The Indonesian police have a superb record over the past few years of rounding up terrorists or better yet killing them.
Unfortunately one of the top terrorists they arrested (name escapes me) was handed over to US authorities who then went and lost him! As did the Singaporeans who let one of their terrorist Godfathers simply walk out of prison, naked no less and he hasn’t been seen since.
Full credit is due to the democratic government of Indonesia in their magnificent efforts against terrorim in the past five years, they were caught napping in Bali but have more than made up for it since.
Well as I write above, the Indonesians have been doing a very good job in rolling up the terrorist network, they aren’t too squeamish when it comes to doing so and several of the leaders and top bombmakers have met their 72 virgins over the course of the last few years thanks to Indonesian policemen.
In April there will be national elections which I fully expect will pass off mostly peacefully (there may be some scattered trouble in the outer islands) and which will confirm the very small percentage of Indonesians who want any sort of Islamic government, less than 5% last time round when they elected English speaking, US educated, moderate and non-corrupt Susilo Bambang Yudhyono, a decent man and straight dealer who has welcomed George W Bush and recently Hillary Clinton in visits to Indonesia during his term of office.
Indonesia has its problems, loads of them, but it remains a democracy, a genuinely moderately Muslin nation and a pro-western nation friendly to the US and its neighbour Australia. Not all people in Indonesia are moderate Muslims of course, there are plenty of nutters as in all countries, but by and large if you wanted to draw up a simple outline of how you’d realistically like Muslim nations to behave you’d start off with Indonesia as your basic working model.
You left me just as skeptical as I was tater, do you mind if I call you that;)
Call me what you like (within reason) about what in particular are you sceptical?
I’ve read the koran. Therefore I am skeptical towards Indonesia.
If the US can create a stable moderate democracy in Iraq that is as pro-western as Indonesia then it will be quite a remarkable achievement. Somehow I doubt it and yet still people will applaud the “achievement” in Iraq while constantly belittling Indonesia, the third largest democracy in the world and since 1965 a very good friend of the US.
If that’s how you treat your friends it’s no wonder you get so many enemies.
I just got back from a cruise on Carnival Cruise Line and most of the staff and crew were Indonesian. All spoke english vere well. I was begining to think no one was left in Indonesia all had gone to sea.
I hope you had a great time!
Apparently not all were lost in Indonesia.
Just the poor folks...sad to say.
The Indonesian people on your ship were probably those who could speak English.
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