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Gun shop employee shoots robbery suspect
Lake County News Sun ^ | 5 March, 2009 | FRANK ABDERHOLDEN

Posted on 03/06/2009 6:10:42 AM PST by marktwain

WAUKEGAN -- Five suspects were in custody after a shooting incident Wednesday afternoon at Schrank's Smoke 'N Gun where police said robbery was the apparent motive.

One male suspect was flown to a hospital after suffering three gunshot wounds. An employee of the gun shop was treated at an area hospital.

According to witness accounts, a subject went behind the counter at the store at 2010 Washington St., and was engaged with a store clerk in a verbal altercation that turned physical, Waukegan Police Cmdr. Wayne Walles said.

At one point, the store clerk produced a pistol and fired at the subject, striking him in the chest twice and once in the leg.

The injured male suspect was flown by Flight For Life to Advocate Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge where he was in surgery late Wednesday.

The store clerk inadvertently shot himself in the hand during the struggle, police said.

Two men outside the store were taken into custody immediately after the shooting. Police Chief William Biang said they were detained because they had been inside the store with the other suspect at some point.

Police later said a total of four people, besides the male who was shot, were taken into custody in connection with the incident.

"Four other subjects who were at the scene at the time of this incident have been located and are being interviewed by police," said Walles. No identities in the case were released.

Two men who didn't want to be identified at the scene at 1:45 p.m. said they had an appointment to sell or trade some guns, but couldn't because of the police and emergency vehicle at the store.

"If we had come 15 minutes earlier, we would have been in there," one said. They were both amazed anyone would try anything in the store because employees openly carry weapons, and the manager of the store is a marksman who teaches shooting classes.

Washington Street was shut down for about an hour and nearby Waukegan High School was put on lock down.

Police told the school to put "Code White" into effect, which means everyone must stay put, said Biang, but the school issued a "Code Red" instead, used when a gunman is inside the school.

The shooting is the second by a store employee in Waukegan in less than six months. A store clerk fatally shot a 20-year-old robber who tried to flee the scene of a grocery store on Lincoln Avenue in October after the North Chicago man entered the store carrying a gun and demanding money.

In January, the clerk was cleared of any wrongdoing by a Lake County grand jury which ruled the shooting was in self defense.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; gunshop; ilarmedcitizen; robbery; wisconsin
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Looks like the robber tried the idea of taking the gun away from the person who is openly carrying, that is often bandied about on this forum. It did not work out very well for him.
1 posted on 03/06/2009 6:10:42 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

**the clerk was cleared of any wrongdoing **

And I hope he was given a MEDAL as WELL


2 posted on 03/06/2009 6:13:41 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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Move him up to sharpshooter.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 6:16:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: marktwain

Reminds me of that old story of the thieves who tried to rob a bar that was frequented by Police. Not the brightest decision of their day. I can’t recall if they ended up surrendering immediately or filled with bullets.


4 posted on 03/06/2009 6:18:32 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

one for the list


5 posted on 03/06/2009 6:30:53 AM PST by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: marktwain
Inadvertently shot himself in the hand? I wonder if he may have been deflecting a weapon with it. That's the most likely way I think someone would end up with that wound.
6 posted on 03/06/2009 6:31:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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The injured male suspect was flown by Flight For Life to Advocate Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge where he was in surgery late Wednesday.

I wish this could have been a happier ending. There's still hope I guess.

7 posted on 03/06/2009 6:33:42 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: marktwain
Ever been in a gun store where someone wasn't packin' heat?
Me neither.
8 posted on 03/06/2009 6:38:03 AM PST by smokingfrog ( Dear Mr. Obama - Please make it rain candy! P.S. I like jelly beans.)
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DEAD
9 posted on 03/06/2009 6:49:05 AM PST by odin2008 (EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: marktwain

I live in waukegan... And what is amazing is most of the mayors in the area are dems, but have been backing the self defense of store owners shooting criminals.. Actually makes me a little proud that they have common sense.. Instead of other places that would prosecute the clerk. My father in law goes to that “smoke n gun” store once in awhile.


10 posted on 03/06/2009 7:08:22 AM PST by scfischer7
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To what degree of paralyzing stupidity can we attribute the decision to try to commit armed robbery at a gun shop?

The only thing I’ve ever seen that approximates it in sheer stupidity was the video recently where one idiot jumped off a roof with another idiot on his shoulder in what appeared to be a “fireman’s carry.” The rest of the footage was of both idiots writhing and screaming on the ground in what must have been excruciating pain.


12 posted on 03/06/2009 8:17:34 PM PST by Marauder (Politicians use words the way squids use ink.)
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To: marktwain

No names for the suspects?


13 posted on 03/06/2009 8:19:57 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: SampleMan

Firing while attempting to retain possession of your weapon or using your hand to push the assailant away to get enough room to can result in that, too.


14 posted on 03/06/2009 8:34:31 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I wonder if the perp was trying to get into a gun case while his buddies were distracting the clerks...
15 posted on 03/06/2009 8:46:27 PM PST by tubebender (99% of Lawyers give the rest a bad name...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Four rounds fired, four hits! Good shooting (except for that fourth round hitting himself).

I find it hard to believe anyone would attempt to take down a gun shop. All those clerks in levi jackets and photographer vests, not to mention the open carry dudes, and still some dumbass tries to take a gun shop down.

Several years ago, a dufus walked into a local gun store, picked up a 410 off the consignment rack which was out on the display aisle, chambered a round he had carried in and fired into the ceiling to announce a stickup. It ended up with lots of confusion, the bad guy leaving empty handed and no further shots fired. Had he tried it across town at the big gun shop, he would have looked like a victim of the St. Valentines Day massacre. Those guys - to a man - pack heavy and would love an excuse!

16 posted on 03/06/2009 8:59:19 PM PST by Don Carlos (You can touch a nun once or twice, but don't get in the habit.)
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To: marktwain
Update

No charges in Schrank's shooting

Employee denies report that clerk shot himself


March 7, 2009
BY KENDRICK MARSHALL kmarshall@scn1.com

WAUKEGAN -- It was business as usual Friday at Mike Schrank's Smoke' N Gun only days after Wednesday's attempted robbery and shooting.

Customers were browsing over merchandise and making purchases.

Employees were assisting patrons, completing sales and fielding phone calls.

"Everything is OK," an employee was overheard saying to someone who asked about the incident that left a man hospitalized and a clerk injured.

Aside from that, little was said about it.

"We do not have any statements to make right now," said another employee, who did not want to be named.

But he did say that previous reports that the clerk shot himself were not true.

"He did not shoot himself in the hand. He suffered powder burns," the man said. "He is doing fine now."

Meanwhile, police have not formally charged anyone in that incident.

Waukegan police interviewed four people who were at the scene and released them after determining they were not involved.

Investigators have yet to speak with the hospitalized man who they say is the only suspect in the case.

"We believe the motive was robbery," said police Cmdr. Wayne Walles.

That man underwent emergency surgery at Advocate Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge after being shot several times by the clerk during an argument that turned into a struggle. He was shot once in the leg and twice in the chest.

That man was reported in stable but critical condition Friday at Lutheran General.

17 posted on 03/07/2009 2:24:11 AM PST by csvset
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>>> To what degree of paralyzing stupidity can we attribute the decision to try to commit armed robbery at a gun shop?

Dunno, but I wish the moron had won a Darwin award. I suppose I can pray he’s fathered no children so far and infection from his surgeries sets in.

How come mind-blowingly stupid people can always find SOMEONE to have children with them?


18 posted on 03/07/2009 4:25:41 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: marktwain
They were both amazed anyone would try anything in the store because employees openly carry weapons, and the manager of the store is a marksman who teaches shooting classes.

Incidents like this show that Charley Darwin was wrong after all. Apes couldn't have evolved into humans over the last one million years, it would have taken a lot more time than that for intelligent monkeys to de-volve into guys as dumb as that bunch.

19 posted on 03/07/2009 6:06:26 AM PST by epow (If God is your co-pilot, swap seats.)
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And what is amazing is most of the mayors in the area are dems, but have been backing the self defense of store owners shooting criminals..

That shows those mayors to be about 1000% smarter than your Democrat governor, who IIRC vetoed two or three CCW bills that were passed by the state legislature in the last couple of years.

20 posted on 03/07/2009 6:27:58 AM PST by epow (If God is your co-pilot, swap seats.)
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