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Even some Christians in the UK are drinking the koolaid. There are some comments worth reading at the link to the article.

Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel? Outside of the mainline legacy denominations I mean. I haven't heard of any.

1 posted on 03/05/2009 3:33:45 PM PST by Parmenio
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Please don’t refer to pro-Islam religionists as Evangelical Christians.

Biblical Christians support Israel.


2 posted on 03/05/2009 3:36:48 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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I am watching very carefully for some kind of christo/mohammadan merger. All that is standing in the way is Christian insistence on the divinity of Christ.

I was in the car last night and National People’s Radio devoted a whole hour to debunking the Jesus “myth”.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 3:36:54 PM PST by DManA
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anti-Israel Christians

sounds like leftist so-called christians like the ucc and the episcopalians


4 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:07 PM PST by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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Many anti-freedom, anti-truth, anti-individual, anti-life collectives and individuals will join forces.

WORDS & DEEDS BUMP!


5 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:18 PM PST by PGalt
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No real Christians that I know of in the US are anti-Israel.

6 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:55 PM PST by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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How can you be a Christian and not support Israel?


8 posted on 03/05/2009 3:38:37 PM PST by svcw
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No REAL Christian is anti-Israel. Just like no REAL Christian would be anti-(insert Islamic Country here).

Why? Because Christianity is not anti countries or ethnic groups.
Christians, that have a brain, WILL respectfully tell people that hold beliefs opposite to their own why they think they are wrong.

9 posted on 03/05/2009 3:39:15 PM PST by AreaMan
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Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?

Outside of the drug-induced hallucinations of radical leftists, no.

11 posted on 03/05/2009 3:47:16 PM PST by MeganC (Palin-Limbaugh 2012)
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“Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?”

If they were, I would not consider them to be evangelicals. Or Christians.

“15 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21”Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”—Matthew 7


13 posted on 03/05/2009 3:49:54 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel? Outside of the mainline legacy denominations I mean. I haven't heard of any.

This shows again why the term "Evangelical" is so broad as to be essentially meaningless. When whackjob liberal Presbyterians and Anglicans can be called "Evangelicals", the term has run its course and needs to be put to bed.

IIRC, there is some "latent" anti-Israelism/anti-Zionism in some quarters even of conservative American Christianity, mostly groups holding to amillenial eschatology and related heresies who believe (in some form or fashion) that "the Church" IS Israel, which would obviously make Israel NOT Israel....if that made sense.

14 posted on 03/05/2009 3:52:40 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?

Simply, no. At least not any more so than you could find people who practice satanism or other scatterred loonie nut-jobs of no social or numerical significance. The author of the piece referring to some so-called "profound split" is ridiculous. I suspect there may be some agenda here in trying to drive a deeper wedge between Jews and evangelical Christians.

15 posted on 03/05/2009 3:53:39 PM PST by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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Christians who hate Jews are the same type that love abortion and homosexuality—Either seriously misguided or false, like Obama’s spiritual leader Rev. Wright. I certainly wouldn’t call Jew-hating so-called Christians “evangelical.”


17 posted on 03/05/2009 3:56:45 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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...anti-Israel Christians...

These fools must be holding their Bibles upside-down.

21 posted on 03/05/2009 4:26:47 PM PST by rogue yam
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This doesn’t surprise me. NAZI Germany had three SS divisions made up of and commanded by muslims. They worked in the Balkins on the final solution and most Arab leaders after the war had direct ties to these SS troops.

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com


23 posted on 03/05/2009 4:54:27 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to defend liberty deserves the tyrant that rules them SP)
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anti-Israel Christians

There must be 8 or so of these people in the world.

24 posted on 03/05/2009 5:32:33 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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Sizer is a virulent opponent of Christian Zionism and of Israel, which he has said he hopes will disappear just as did the apartheid regime in South Africa. He has also applauded Iranian President Ahmadinejad for having ‘looked forward to the day when Zionism ceased to exist’. Nevertheless, the appearance of an Anglican churchman on a pro-Islamist platform in Britain is a new and significant development.

The Spectator uses the term "Evangelical" in a way that that is NOT the equivalent of "Evangelical" in America. The Anglican Church, or Church of England, would be considered a "Mainline" or "establishment" church in the US.

This article seems intent on casting aspersions on Evangelicals, who, with the exception of some like Jim Wallis, are supporters of Israel

26 posted on 03/05/2009 6:29:29 PM PST by happygrl (BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
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If anyone is a true Christian, and they don’t support Israel, they are in for a very rude awakening. And I don’t think God’s averse to knocking them upside the head to accomplish that awakening.

There are many strong messages in the Bible, but one of the main lessons is PROTECT MY ISRAEL. And God will protect you.

Christians have no excuse for not being Zionists. None.


32 posted on 03/05/2009 7:53:26 PM PST by heat pipes
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Melanie Phillips says there is a dangerous new alliance between anti-Israel Christians and radical Muslim groups, often plotting in secret against their common enemy

Whut?????

Sounds to me like that these people are more like neo-Nazi white supremacists rather than Christians.

And I don't see how anyone calling himself or herself a Christian can be "anti-Israel" considering Christianity's close historical and theological ties to Judaism.

This just does not pass the smell test.

36 posted on 03/06/2009 3:53:07 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?

No.

37 posted on 03/06/2009 4:13:59 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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The libs have been salivating over and looking to find "Christian" terrorists for years...hoping to find anything they can point to.

So they find one whacko in England and call that a Evangelical-Islamic alliance.

IMHO, this is a typical liberal MO...making up an alliancce out of an obscure event so they can paint the whole with the same brush.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

38 posted on 03/06/2009 4:58:10 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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