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Report: 20% of Home Mortgages Were Underwater in December
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 04, 2009 | Amy Hoak

Posted on 03/04/2009 3:42:31 PM PST by Wpin

CHICAGO -- Twenty percent of all U.S. residential properties that had a mortgage on them were underwater at the end of December, with mortgage debt greater than what the homes were worth, according to a report released Wednesday by First American CoreLogic.

That's more than 8.3 million mortgages that were upside down at the end of the year, compared with 7.6 million three months earlier. It's a problem that is expected to get worse as home prices continue to fall...

"The accelerating share of negative equity, combined with deteriorating economic conditions, means that mortgage risk will continue to increase until home prices and the economy begin to stabilize," said Mark Fleming, chief economist of First American CoreLogic, in a news release. First American CoreLogic is a Santa Ana, Calif.-based provider of real estate data and mortgage analytics.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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This information is really scary. This information is already over two months old! Consider what has happened since then to real estate values! We are in very precarious times...
1 posted on 03/04/2009 3:42:31 PM PST by Wpin
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To: Wpin

Did they have flood insurance? Thanks, I’ll be here all week. Try the veal, and don’t forget to tip your waitress!


2 posted on 03/04/2009 3:44:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering." Barry Goldwater)
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To: Wpin

100% of new car puchases are underwater at the moment of purchase and have been since Henry Ford invented the assembly line.

And yet, somehow, we survived.


3 posted on 03/04/2009 3:48:56 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Wpin

A lot of the growth in prices was bogus, and this fake growth led to enormous misallocations and malinvestment. The amount of damage done by government distortions within the housing market, compounded by faulty risk analysis and compounded several times over via leveraging, is staggering.


4 posted on 03/04/2009 3:50:09 PM PST by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: Wpin

WSJ take on it - note the title...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2199192/posts


5 posted on 03/04/2009 3:51:10 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: M203M4

We are on the precipice of an economic disaster that may very well end up equaling the thirties. No wonder Washington is just plain panicking. I don’t think they can throw enough money at this to ride out the storm.

At least now we have a little better understanding of what they are trying to stave off. Literally a total collapse of the economy. The price deflation going on is incredible and that is with huge, unprecedented (to my knowledge) increases in money supply. Look at what is happening in the auto industry as well, and even energy. Demand is falling sharply.


6 posted on 03/04/2009 3:56:18 PM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Wpin

I’m sure Obama is dancing a jig in the whitehouse over this infromation. Could just imagine Rahm’s ear to ear grin when he delivered this little jewel? He must have jumped two stairs at a time to get up to the Oval office.


7 posted on 03/04/2009 3:57:00 PM PST by topfile
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To: Wpin
The world of finance loves metaphors based on water and plumbing.


8 posted on 03/04/2009 4:00:10 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Wpin
The price deflation going on is incredible and that is with huge, unprecedented (to my knowledge) increases in money supply. Look at what is happening in the auto industry as well, and even energy. Demand is falling sharply.

I don't believe the money has made it into the system yet. If it ever does. Many are predicting inflation, perhaps hyperinflation, after this cycle of deflation is over. Companies aren't producing as many things because they are overstocked, as witnessed by falling prices. IF the money Obama is printing hits the streets and at the same time, inventories are reduced, we could have inflation.

Just one scenario that's possible.
9 posted on 03/04/2009 4:05:20 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Wpin

I feel like such a chump. I could have bought a house 3x more than I could afford, too. Then I’d get bailed out to continue living in it. What a sucker I am.


10 posted on 03/04/2009 4:06:48 PM PST by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.instantrimshot.com/


11 posted on 03/04/2009 4:07:12 PM PST by John W
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To: Wpin

I disagree, I believe they are trying to demolish the economy, the economic plan helps no one, it is designed to drive the final blow


12 posted on 03/04/2009 4:08:42 PM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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At least now we have a little better understanding of what they are trying to stave off. 

Stave off? Someone needs to tell Mr Obama.

3/1/2009 "Obama administration officials had indicated last week that the U.S. was preparing to pledge $900 million in assistance for Gaza"

Yeah, that's going to help......

13 posted on 03/04/2009 4:27:47 PM PST by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Wpin
Little surprise when you consider all the refinancing adverts that bombarded the nation 24x7.

And here's a contributing factor I've heard little about ... remember the death of the non-mortgage interest deduction? How many people rolled their credit cards, their cars, new home furnishings, etc. into a mortgage that made the whole shebang tax deductible again???

Well, compare the roller family to the one next door who kept their lines of credit separate and that second family probably isn't under water on the house.

IOW, how much of this crisis is artificial, what healthy portion is self-imposed, and why should I be doing anything about it???

14 posted on 03/04/2009 4:45:15 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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Some of the worst financial mistakes anyone can make is:

Confusing equity with debt.

Believing that when you take a loan out to buy real estate, you now own it, as oppossed to when you were renting. The bank is the primary owner till you’ve paid off the principle amount or re-sell it to pay off what debt you still owe them. You’ve simply moved from a rent situation, to a rent-to-own situation.

That when an investment has gone up in value, that your net worth has as well. Your net worth hasn’t changed until you realize either a loss or a profit on that investment.

That real estate never goes down in value. All commodity values are cyclical in free market environments based on supply and demand, including real estate.


15 posted on 03/04/2009 4:47:15 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (Trust unto God and He shall direct your path)
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To: lainie

Yeah ... who is the fool now? You and me, paying taxes to support the extravance of others.


16 posted on 03/04/2009 4:51:01 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

And you still don’t own it after it’s paid off.

The government can seize it, quickly through eminent domain or slowly through tax hikes.

They can restrict its use, lowering its value.


17 posted on 03/04/2009 4:51:47 PM PST by P.O.E. ("Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness")
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To: Wpin

I’m seeing 8.3 million households walking away from their mortgages, leaving the banks to try to sell the houses.


18 posted on 03/04/2009 6:21:22 PM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Wpin

Last Flight 666 to Hell has taken-off (1), no more stopovers, as predicted by End Times Prophet, two weeks ago. (2)

Notes
(1) Last Flight 666 to Hell - no more stopovers
http://chart.bigcharts.com/custom/usatoday-com/marketwatch-ss-ii.img?symb=CRUDE

(2) http://illuminati-overtime.blogspot.com/2009/02/financial-armageddon-attackers-running.html


19 posted on 03/04/2009 6:26:33 PM PST by VlPu
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To: Wpin
Check out this slide show at the bottom... Ed Pinto’s slides it's now shown that Freddie and Fannie misrepresented their subprime loans for at least several years.

 

How Serious Is the Mortgage Problem That Will Confront President Obama?

This AEI conference was held January 16, 2009 - seems like a year ago. But the information remains current and very useful — in an arena of opaqueness shrouded in darkness. The stench escaping out of Fannie and Freddie is started to be smelled here in Australia.

Since the mortgage meltdown began in the summer of 2007, many observers have commented that government policy has seemed to lag events. Predictions about the scope of the problems in the housing and mortgage markets, and particularly how they might affect the health of the financial system, have consistently been too optimistic. One of the reasons for this is the difficulty of obtaining accurate information, even for policymakers. Fannie and Freddie, for example, have been making subprime or other nontraditional loans for at least a decade but reporting them as prime loans. These loans total approximately $1.6 trillion. As a result, 44 percent of all loans, or a total of 25 million loans, are outstanding subprime and other nontraditional loans–more than double what anyone understood at the beginning of the mortgage market collapse. Edward Pinto, a former chief credit officer for Fannie Mae, has done an extensive study of the scope of the mortgage problem and will report at this conference on what President Barack Obama will confront when he takes office on January 20.

You can access Ed Pinto’s slides here — you will be rewarded with data you’ve probably not seen elsewhere — unless you work inside Fannie or Freddie.


20 posted on 03/04/2009 8:17:24 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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