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Should hunters switch to 'green' bullets? (Mega-Barf)
CNN ^ | 3/4/2009 | John D. Sutter

Posted on 03/04/2009 11:51:38 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

(CNN) -- Three years ago, Phillip Loughlin made a choice he knew would brand him as an outsider with many of his fellow hunters:

"It made sense," Loughlin said of his switch to more environmentally friendly ammo, which doesn't contain lead. "I believe that we need to do a little bit to take care of the rest of the habitat and the environment -- not just what we want to shoot out of it."

Lead, a toxic metal that can lower the IQs of children, is the essential element in most ammunition on the market today.

But greener alternatives are gaining visibility -- and stirring controversy -- as some hunters, scientists, environmentalists and public health officials worry about lead ammunition's threat to the environment and public health.

Hunting groups oppose limits on lead ammunition, saying there's no risk and alternatives are too expensive.

The scope of the trend is difficult to measure. Americans spent an estimated $1.08 billion on ammunition in fiscal year 2008, according to tax reports from the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau. But the bureau does not track ammunition sales by type.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: allmost

You don’t know the half of it. I work in the electronics industry. ALL parts must now be certified “lead free”. Solder which is historically, since the Middle Ages, 60/40 Tin/lead alloy is now verboten. The lead was removed from paints years ago. The reason lead was in the paint was so it would last longer and weather and bacteria resistant. Lead in batteries was the reason small motorcycles and dirt bikes for youngsters were recently pulled from showrooms across the country. Lead is in stained glass windows and fine crystal ware. Lead is being considered to be the boogy man where people have no intelligence....................


21 posted on 03/04/2009 12:11:45 PM PST by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: Niteranger68; All

Bet you are right. And even they cannot prove this will be effective....so why is this even a story, especially a “Planet in Peril” special?

The results were inconclusive. Those who ate the lead-shot meat had slightly higher blood-lead levels than those who didn’t, but none of the 738 people in the study had levels above the government’s threshold for danger.


22 posted on 03/04/2009 12:12:42 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

There are some pretty tough ceramics out there today but I suspect they cost several times what it costs to make conventional projectiles.

Course we all realize this isn’t really about green ammo or protecting wildlife.


23 posted on 03/04/2009 12:13:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: ejonesie22

Just as stupid as this woman was.................

24 posted on 03/04/2009 12:13:46 PM PST by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: Red Badger
I might know half of it. ;)
Certainly not all...
25 posted on 03/04/2009 12:14:12 PM PST by allmost
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To: Red in Blue PA
"It made sense," Loughlin said of his switch to more environmentally friendly ammo, which doesn't contain lead.

I'm willing to switch from lead to depleted uranium

26 posted on 03/04/2009 12:16:24 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

I am willing to stop buying newspapers because it kills trees and causes Co2 depletion.

Hmmm.... Get rid of newspapers and we get rid of global warming.

Works for me.


27 posted on 03/04/2009 12:17:48 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information and you control the people.)
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To: George Smiley

Let’s all go to hell and add some mercury in the hollow tips.


28 posted on 03/04/2009 12:18:12 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Red in Blue PA
Lead, a toxic metal that can lower the IQs of children

And, apparently, some hunters....just joking.
29 posted on 03/04/2009 12:18:24 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Red Badger
Yes, as long as that “green” is from copper oxides..........

Maybe somebody will come up with an nice, bright green lube coating.

30 posted on 03/04/2009 12:19:57 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Red Badger

...”60/40 Tin/lead alloy is now verboten”

I’ve kinda been out of electronics (do people actually FIX or BUILD anything any more??) for about ten years.

If one goes and buys solder, now, today, what’s the composition, do you know?


31 posted on 03/04/2009 12:20:39 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Red in Blue PA
I had some *green* ammunition. It was NATO 5.56 AP. I sold it the guy at the car wash along with my firearms.
32 posted on 03/04/2009 12:21:13 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: mmichaels1970

I remember when they went after Bush for the Arsenic in the water. They’re freaking Elements!


33 posted on 03/04/2009 12:22:09 PM PST by massgopguy (I ostard yet?we everything to George Bailey)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Don’t lick the bullets. Sheesh.


34 posted on 03/04/2009 12:22:17 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: George Smiley

Back in my day green ammo was frangible.


35 posted on 03/04/2009 12:22:20 PM PST by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I would suggest bullets made from recycled paper, perhaps even dampened for added density. When you hit a duck with “green” spitwads, he’s not going to know what to do!


36 posted on 03/04/2009 12:27:25 PM PST by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
as some hunters, scientists, environmentalists and public health officials worry about lead ammunition's threat to the environment and public health.

Bravo Sierra

37 posted on 03/04/2009 12:28:07 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: Red Badger
You know at this rate the dems are going to make a rule that we can't pour water out on to the ground because it will pollute the water.
38 posted on 03/04/2009 12:34:33 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Metallic lead is insoluble in body-temp HCl. Unless one’s stomach is at 100°C, it will not enter the bloodstream if ingested.

Copper, on the other hand...


39 posted on 03/04/2009 12:34:42 PM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

There are lots of reasons that lower the alledged IQ of any person.


40 posted on 03/04/2009 12:34:55 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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