Posted on 03/04/2009 10:34:18 AM PST by neverdem
When President Obama recently nominated Kansas governor and universal healthcare advocate Kathleen Sebelius to be to the country's Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), the president of America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) called it "a very smart choice. She has a good intellect, a big heart and tremendous expertise." AHIP and its predecessor, the Health Insurance Association of America, have a track record of financial support for Gov. Sebelius dating back to the time she served as Kansas Insurance Commissioner.
Of course, the health insurance industry also supported President Obama's first choice, Sen. Tom Daschle. Daschle's financial backers included AHIP, which paid Daschle $40,000 for two speeches, and health-insurance giant United Health Care, which paid him $5,000 for "advice."
"Senator Daschle is exceptionally well qualified to bring people together in support of universal coverage, cost-containment, and improved quality."
"This vital legislation provides health security for millions of children in working families and builds momentum for comprehensive health care reform. Expanding coverage for kids is a big first step toward ensuring that all Americans have affordable, quality health care."
Question: "Tell us a little about your experience."
Answer: "I've been working to put you all out of business."
Reply: "Great! When can you start?"
The insurance industry knows which side its bread it buttered. That’s why they are supporters of Democrats
By the way, it’s called Univeral Health Care but it’s really Universal Health INSURANCE ... with the spoils going to the companies who contribute the most to get the thing passed.
There will be no competition in the health insurance industry. It will be an even bigger government run protection racket than it is now at the States level.
The insurance industry knows which side its bread it buttered. That’s why they are supporters of Democrats
By the way, it’s called Univeral Health Care but it’s really Universal Health INSURANCE ... with the spoils going to the companies who contribute the most to get the thing passed.
There will be no competition in the health insurance industry. It will be an even bigger government run protection racket than it is now at the States level.
Rather than having this as a program, the funding should be in individual trusts.
Yes, I’m saying the SCHIP program should be called SCHIT...
You forgot to tell everyone that Kathleen Sebelius, as Insurance Commissioner, took for ever to approve justified rate increases and otherwise made life difficult for them.
This, of course, made several companies leave the state.
The lack of competition made things worse, of course.
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I do not think the insurance industry supports the rats. The insurance is paying protection money. They knew that the rats would win. They are hoping for some leniency. This situation is not much different that dealing with the Mafia. Either pay protection money or get whacked.
I agree that the rats want to remove competition from health care. The rats will eventually cut out private health insurance. In the short term, the rats will make the private health insurers heel to their rat masters.
Government policies (championed by the rats) have corrupted the private health insurance market. You seem to blame the private insurers. I blame the rats for interfering with private health care markets. The insurance industry is just responding to rat corruption.
Private health insurers do not ration care except when the rationing is imposed by government. Only government has the power to ration goods and services. Private insurers negotiate contracts with employers to provide specified levels of medical coverage. If you are unhappy about the level of medical care provided, your beef would typically involve your employer and government requirements. The health care industry is put into the difficult situation of enforcing contractual terms on third parties (plan members).
Government has drastically interfered with private health care markets. Outrageous government restrictions and requirements have increased the cost of health care and reduced choice. The entire idea of employer provided health insurance is a government creation.
There is no free market in private health insurance. It is a governement (for now State) protection racket. Only certain insurance companies are allowed to sell in a particular State and the State can coerce or mandate the coverage terms, etc.
I DO blame the insurance companies because they are complicit in this scheme. They LIKE less competition. Also, they know who they have to pay off in the State legislatures to get the rates that they want and to limit their competition.
Anyone who thinks we have a free market health insurance system in this country just hasn’t examined the facts. Your State controls who can sell insurance and under what terms.
The Dems (and some Republicans) want to take this current State protection racket to the national level, that’s the only difference. The only people who will lose in this are State politicians because the payola will then go to Federal politicians ... but for the same kind of protection against competition. The Feds will decide who can sell insurance and set the terms.
It’s a win-win for insurance comapanies and federal level politicians. It’s a lose-lose for everyone else.
I do not have details about the market for private health insurance. I agree that the market is heavily regulated. I still think that some type of market exists but I agree that competition is heavily restricted. I think that state restrictions on private health insurance are violations of the commerce clause, at least in spirit. The states in collusion with the feds have erected artificial trade barriers for private health insurance.
Government is the driver of this dreadful situation. Private businesses always seek to limit competition. In many other industries, private businesses cannot use the power of government to limit competition. In health care, government has been the driver of limitations on competition. Bush to his credit tried to deregulate the market for private health insurance. He was blocked at every step by rats and rinos.
I do not think it is a win situation for private insurance in the long run. The rats have no use for private health insurance in the long run. Unless we have a conservative revolution, private health insurance will be dead in 5 to 10 years. It may find a niche by providing out of country care for the hordes that seek treatment outside of this country.
That means they ration all the time, IMHO. Two evils don't make a good. They cherry pick patients and deny care as well as tell doctors how to practice medicine. Everyone wants something for nothing. They all can go jump in a lake. I'd rather go fishing. I wish I never went to medical school.
Yes it does matter. You, or your employer, can switch insurance companies if they don't give good service and value.
Switching government is a bit more difficult. They tend to take umbrage at that, with guns.
Third party health insurance that is tax deductible from employers is another scam. Why health insurance benefits are not taxable benefits escapes me except that it was started under FDR's World War II price controls. I don't know which causes more distortions. Is it third party health insurance that is tax deductible for employers or tort lawyers from defensive medicine and malpractice insurance? All I know is that we can thank the left.
You may be right, or not, but it's still a fact that there is competition in the private insurance market, and there would be none if government health care becomes universal, or even just nearly so.
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