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You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own
Gun News Daily ^ | March 1 2009 | Ralph Weller

Posted on 03/04/2009 10:28:42 AM PST by atomic_dog

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To: calex59
I went to a gun show at the Weber county fair building in northern Utah. There were a few full auto machine guns for sale. They were quite old and the starting prices were around $14,000. It's not that the guns are really worth that price. The price is driven by scarcity. There is nothing for sale that was manufactured after 1986. What remains is old and not is especially great condition. If I really wanted to spend $14,000 plus the $200 ATF stamp, my local sheriff would have happily signed off on it.
21 posted on 03/04/2009 11:10:17 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: ChicagahAl
I have long thought that if guns are ever banned in the US, countries like Venezuela will make sure that the US gangbangers, revolutionary leftists, black nationalists and other scumbags, get all the AK’s, Explosive Ordnance, and other weaponry they need.

You don't have to go that far south. When the civil wars in Central America ended in the early '90s all of the rebels - FMLN guys with their former ARVN and ES M16s, FDN guys with their Egyptian and Chinese AKs, Guatemalans with whatever they had, were all supposed to turn their weapons in to their respective governments. The guerrillas where broke peasants and those rifles were the most valuable things they owned. Want to guess what portion of them were turned in? A few of these guns turned up in Chiapas, Mexico in 1994 but most of them as still sloshing around Latin America looking for a home.

Gun control works as well in Latin America as it does here. The more stringent the bans the greater the effort exerted to get around them.

22 posted on 03/04/2009 11:11:54 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Be There >>> http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Ayers is a blathering loon with a very powerful patron sitting in the White House.
23 posted on 03/04/2009 11:12:11 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: atomic_dog; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
I can only assume they came from illegal arms manufacturers in India or Pakistan that produce copies of weapons. It was obvious that none of these firearms came from a U.S. gun shop in Tucson or San Diego. You couldn't buy them from a gun shop in the states if you tried.

Ping!

24 posted on 03/04/2009 11:18:13 AM PST by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Red in Blue PA
"Yes he is."

Ayers is almost single-handedly responsible for the subversion and destruction of the US public educational system.

That's not someone to underestimate.

25 posted on 03/04/2009 11:21:20 AM PST by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: atomic_dog

“It seems Mexicans have a rich heritage of firearms ownership prior to the ban in 1968. Despite the laws against owning them, they ignore it.”

Of course they ignore the law. Their entire culture exists on ignoring the law. That’s why they have no respect for ours.

As for where Mexico is getting guns, they are trade partners with Iraq and China. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Mrs. Blum’s (diane fienstien)gun import business isn’t supplying some of them. He supplied some for the Iraq war.

Oh....the irony.


26 posted on 03/04/2009 11:23:04 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: atomic_dog
"You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own"

That don't matter. It's the thought that counts. All that matters is that the sheep are scared to death of everything, and that the messiah's jack boots prefer no effective opposiiton.

27 posted on 03/04/2009 11:23:08 AM PST by spunkets
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To: VR-21; ChicagahAl

Actually it was the Port of Oakland in 1996. The name of the ship was the Empress Phoenix.

Newsmax has the story from 2006 but I can’t find it o the Oakland Trib or SF Chron sites.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/28/114741.shtml?s=et


28 posted on 03/04/2009 11:24:17 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Be There >>> http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
It appears that you're correct. Thanks for the clarification.

I found this one sentence from the NewsMax article noteworthy..."It was the largest seizure of fully operational automatic weapons in the history of U.S. law enforcement."

29 posted on 03/04/2009 11:33:49 AM PST by VR-21
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To: atomic_dog

Very enlightening read.


30 posted on 03/04/2009 11:38:39 AM PST by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: ChicagahAl

****”Klashnikov’s (ostensibly destined for street gangs)”
I’m a news junkie, but I guess I missed that one. I’ll have to do a search to see if that story is still around.

Were specific gangs or demographics mentioned at the time? ***

I remember it. It was under the Clinton administration. All the gun magazines and Gun Week had the story.


31 posted on 03/04/2009 11:38:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: atomic_dog; BGHater; nbhunt; La Lydia; jafojeffsurf; B.O. Plenty; skeptoid; Yellow Rose of Texas; ..

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


32 posted on 03/04/2009 11:40:09 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: ChicagahAl

***I’m a news junkie, but I guess I missed that one***

Were you around when the Treasury department raided a secret factory in So-Cal and found them making full auto sub machine guns without a license for shipment to Latin America?

It happened about the same day that Robert Kennedy got shot, 1968.

Remember when some Central American military officers tried to sell twenty thousand full auto submachine guns to American mobsters (undercover agents) back in the 1970’s?

Lots more going on than we realize!


33 posted on 03/04/2009 11:44:01 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: VR-21

I would guess the the National Firearms Act of 1934 exceeded that amount of seizures.


34 posted on 03/04/2009 11:45:59 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: AuntB; atomic_dog

***“It seems Mexicans have a rich heritage of firearms ownership prior to the ban in 1968.***

Wasn’t this in 1956? I remember reading of a Texas rancher buying lots of Ruger .22 pistols and Winchester .30/30’s in the US to trade in Mexico for old antique Colt Peacemakers that were supposed to be turned in to the Mexican Govt.


35 posted on 03/04/2009 11:49:10 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Myrddin

Yeah, I could get a stamp here also even though I am in CA(northern CA, the citidal of conservatism in CA)but who can afford a 1936 Thompson that is completely worn out anyway!


36 posted on 03/04/2009 12:15:08 PM PST by calex59
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; InABunkerUnderSF
"Lots more going on than we realize!"

Thanks for your posts.

Needless to say, the major media isn't bothering to tell the masses about all this.

Their bias is criminal.

37 posted on 03/04/2009 12:31:21 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: calex59
Yeah, I could get a stamp here also even though I am in CA(northern CA, the citidal of conservatism in CA)but who can afford a 1936 Thompson that is completely worn out anyway!

That was my feeling when I looked at what was for sale. It was probably "ok" quality the day it was manufactured. Something I might give $400 to purchase new today if prices weren't off the wall due to regulations. It was certainly not worth $14,000 in its well worn condition.

I would really like an M-14. Select fire or demilled into a semi-auto. Too bad the "policy" is to destroy perfectly good rifles. A Springfield National Match M1A or a Fulton Armory variant would be a nice addition to the collection.

38 posted on 03/04/2009 12:45:09 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ChicagahAl

***Needless to say, the major media isn’t bothering to tell the masses about all this.

Their bias is criminal. ****

Remember in the 1990’s when Clinton banned the import of Chinese rifles and ammo? The Feds raided a warehouse and carted away boxcar loads of ammo as illegal. The news media really played it up with videos of the box cars that were confiscated!

Then someone looked at the head stamps on the ammo. Uh-Uho. Legal Russian ammo. they had to give it back. No mention from the MSM.


39 posted on 03/04/2009 1:18:14 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: calex59

“Translated this means,”We don’t think we can push a bill through yet, but as soon as the fake attempt on the President’s life is planned and carried out we will be able to ban anything we want!”.

Look for it soon. Either that or they are trying to make things so miserable for the public that some nut case will try it on their own.”

NAIL ON HEAD.


40 posted on 03/04/2009 1:37:43 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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