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Clinton: Israeli home demolitions 'unhelpful'
Washington Post ^ | 3-4-09 | MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH

Posted on 03/04/2009 8:38:22 AM PST by SJackson

RAMALLAH, West Bank -- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday promised vigorous and personal involvement in stalled Mideast peace efforts and criticized Israel's demolition of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem as "unhelpful."

Clinton also displayed strong public support for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. The Palestinian Authority is the "only legitimate government of the Palestinian people," she told a news conference, standing next to Abbas.

On Tuesday, Clinton met with Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu.

The hardline leader opposes the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel and supports the expansion of Israeli settlements on war-won land claimed by the Palestinians, including the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

In recent days, Israel has issued orders for the demolition of dozens of Palestinian homes in east Jerusalem, saying the homes were built illegally.

Palestinians say they cannot receive proper building permits from Israeli authorities, and the planned demolitions are means to assert Israel's control over the disputed city.

"Clearly, this kind of activity is unhelpful," Clinton said, adding that she would raise it with the Israeli government as well as municipal officials in Jerusalem. She said such actions violate the "road map," a U.S.-backed peace plan.

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Someone at State needs to clue Hillary in, the officially recognized representative of the palestinian people is the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Palestinian Authority is a governmental entity, which can be replaced by said palestinian people, as the did in Gaza.

And Arabs should build with permits, like Jews do. They can apply, and receive them when they do. Of course they don’t apply when building on land they don’t own, on roads, on school playgrounds, places like that. Hillary wouldn’t say boo about a demolition in NY, or about the relocation of people living on an archeological site in NY. Her double standard is showing.

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NYT Blunders on Jerusalem Building

On the eve of the 40th year since Jerusalem’s reunification, the New York Times’ Greg Myre correctly reports on the growing Arab population in Israel's capital, a phenomenon which has frequently been ignored or misreported over the years (“Israeli Riddle: Love Jerusalem, Hate Living There,” May 13, 2007):

In a 1967 census taken shortly after the war, the population of Jerusalem was 74 percent Jewish and 26 percent Arab. Today, the city is 66 percent Jewish and 34 percent Arab, with the gap narrowing by about 1 percentage point a year, according to the Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies.

Unfortunately, though, Myre misrepresents the massive Arab building—illegal and legal—in the city, a building boom which goes hand-in-hand with a fast growing population. Relying on Rami Nasrallah, identified as “an Arab resident who advised the previous Palestinian prime minister, Ahmed Qureia, on Jerusalem affairs,” Myre writes:

While it is virtually impossible for Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza to move to Jerusalem if they were not born there, natural population growth and restrictions on building in Arab parts of the city mean large families often share very small apartments.

An estimated 18,000 apartments and homes, or a third of all the Arab residences in East Jerusalem, were built illegally because permits are so hard to obtain, Mr Nasrallah said, adding that Israel has not approved the development of a new Palestinian neighborhood in East Jerusalem since 1967.

Building Permits and Construction

In actuality, from 1974 to 1995, “Jerusalem’s Arab community received building permits for more square meters of residential construction than did the demographically similar [in terms of population and family size] Jewish ultra-Orthodox community,” Israel Kimhi points out in Arab Building in Jerusalem 1967- 1997, a monograph published by CAMERA. (The Jerusalem municipal planner from 1963 to 1986, Kimhi also heads Jerusalem research at the Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies, the institute cited by Myre.) Specifically, the Arab sector was granted permits for 1.1 million square meters of residential construction, while the ultra-Orthodox Jewish population received 954,000 square meters.

In addition, in his book Illegal Construction in Jerusalem: A Variation on an Alarming Global Phenomenon, Justus Reid Weiner reports that in the mid-1990s, Faisal Husseini, the late Palestinian official most associated with Jerusalem, published a 23-page booklet in which he predicted that by 2010, the Arab population would require 26,200 new housing units. The Jerusalem municipality has more than met that perceived need, by granting permits for 33,000 housing units.

Indeed, Arab building has boomed in eastern Jerusalem; professional analysis of aerial photographs reveals that from 1968 to 1995, the number of Arab houses in eastern Jerusalem doubled. In addition, the number of households in the Arab sector increased by 146 percent during this period, from 12,588 in 1967 to 31,000 in 1995.

Talk About Crowded

Regarding crowded conditions in Arab neighborhoods, Myre misses an important point staring him in the face: If you have a lot of children, like both the Arab and the ultra-Orthodox populations do, you are going to live in crowded quarters. Thus, the city's ultra-Orthodox population, which as he points out has "an extraordinarily high birth rate . . . on average, each of these woman has more than seven children," lives in some of the most crowded neighborhoods. The average housing density among Jerusalem's Arabs is 1.8 persons per room; among Orthodox Jews it is 1.6, and in the ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Ramot Polin the figure is 1.9 persons per room.

Contradicting the claim of overcrowding for Arabs in Jerusalem, large, upscale apartments sit uninhabited in northern Arab neighborhoods such as Beit Hanina, Shuafat, and Issawiya.

No New Arab Neighborhoods

Regarding the fact that no new Arab neighborhoods within Jerusalem have been built since 1967, Kimhi explains in his monograph:

The explanation for this is simply not a political one, as it is usually portrayed. It is also directly related to differing preferences and attributes of the Arab and Jewish communities. In the Jewish sector, large construction companies, a centralized land authority, and the fact that development companies owned large parcels of land have made is possible to build complete residential neighborhoods.

No such factors are to be found in the Arab sector of East Jerusalem. First, the Arabs are not interested in Israeli government construction, since purchasing homes directly from government firms would, in a sense, be seen as collaboration. Indeed, there had been no government construction under Jordanian rule either, and none, of course, under the British. Each individual looked out for himself, as had been customary in this sector for decades.

In addition, not only is land in the Arab sector for the most part unregistered, but many properties are divided among several heirs, and large tracts are under the common ownership (mush’ah) of dozens of people, some of whom live abroad. All of this has hindered planning and development. In other cases, land belongs to a small number of families who have not been willing to market or develop the land for other Arab residents.

Sharp Reactions to Redivision

Referring to a January 2001 “plan to make Jerusalem’s Jewish neighborhoods part of Israel, and the city’s Arab neighborhoods part of a future Palestinians state,” Myre notes that it “provokes a strong reaction among some Jews, who recall when Jordan held East Jerusalem and the Old City, from 1948 to 1967, and Jews were not allowed to pray at the Western Wall.” But it’s not only the Jews who reacted strongly against division of the city. For instance, as the plan was being discussed, Zohair Hamdan of Sur Bahir, a peace activist and critic of the Palestinian Authority, collected 10,000 signatures from fellow east Jerusalem Arabs for a petition in favor of remaining under Israeli sovereignty. For that, he was shot by Fatah gunmen (Jerusalem Post, Nov. 23, 2001).

Camp David discussions of redividing the city led to an increase in the number of east Jerusalem Arabs applying for Israeli citizenship, the AP reported. (See also “Some Arabs Prefer an Israeli-Run Jerusalem,” Washington Post, July 25, 2000). In his article, Myre fails to make clear that Israeli citizenship is available for those east Jerusalem Arabs who apply. Instead, he leaves open the erroneous idea that Israel withholds citizenship against the Arabs' will: "Israel claims all of Jerusalem as its capital, but only a tiny minority of the Arabs who live there are citizens of Israel. The vast majority have legal residency, a status similar to that of green-card holders in the United States."

A History of Misrepresentation

Every 10-year anniversary of the June 1967 reunification of Jerusalem, the mainstream media focuses on the city’s demographics, often getting the facts wrong. Thus, a decade ago, CNN’s Walter Rodgers incorrectly reported on the city’s supposedly “dwindling Arab population.” As CAMERA pointed out at the time:

The Arab population is burgeoning, outpacing Jewish growth in the city. While Jews remain a significant majority of the population, as they have been for more than a hundred years, their numbers have grown just 114% in the thirty years since the city's unification. The Arab population, in contrast, has expanded by 163%. At 30% of the total, Jerusalem is now more Arab than it was in 1967.

As with demographic increase so in construction the Arab sector has outpaced the Jewish sector. Impressive single and multi-family structures have sprung up in Jerusalem neighborhoods such as Issawiya, A-Tur, Silwan, Ras al-Amud, Beit Hanina, Shuafat, Dafr Aqab, Arab A-Shahra, Sur Baher and Um Tuba.

(CNN belatedly corrected its error more than a year later, on Sept. 19, 1998, with a report on the growing Arab population and its building boom, including a statement by a Palestinian official who admitted: “We can build inside Jerusalem, legal, illegal, rebuild a house. Whatever. We can do. Maybe we lose 10 houses [to demolitions], but in the end we build 40 more houses in East Jerusalem.”)

In conclusion, it took much of the media 40 years to correctly report that Jerusalem’s Arab population is growing, not shrinking. Let’s hope that by 2017, after half a century of Israeli sovereignty over the entire city, the media will also report accurately on Arab building.

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Why do you demolish Arab houses ?

The Municipality of Jerusalem demolishes buildings or parts of buildings for reasons of urban planning, not for security matters.

In western Jerusalem, building violations almost invariably consist of additions to legal buildings. In eastern Jerusalem, they typically take the form of whole buildings constructed without a permit. Thus, demolitions of Arab owned houses in eastern Jerusalem are far more dramatic and attract more media attention than in the western part of the city.

Municipal policy is to issue demolition orders only where illegal buildings are not yet occupied and where they interfere with plans for public facilities such as schools or roads, or with the city's historical heritage. In cases where a permit would be granted if applied for, because the area is zoned for housing, we encourage the owner to apply and bring the building into the legal sphere. In cases where a building is demolished, proper legal procedures are followed, including obtaining court orders.

60% of applications for building permits received from Arab residents of eastern Jerusalem are granted, as opposed to 67% of those received from Jewish residents. Many applications are not followed up, because of the necessity of paying fees, which may be less than the fine imposed if the case is taken to court.

1 posted on 03/04/2009 8:38:22 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"Clinton: Israeli home demolitions 'unhelpful',"

This from the man who brought us Waco.

2 posted on 03/04/2009 8:40:49 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: SJackson

utherdoul: Clinton is worthless and shouldn’t be allowed in politics.

you can quote me on that.


3 posted on 03/04/2009 8:41:17 AM PST by utherdoul
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4 posted on 03/04/2009 8:42:04 AM PST by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: Enterprise

“Clinton on Wednesday promised vigorous and personal involvement in stalled Mideast peace efforts”....

I’m sure!....in the Carter tradition....SNAFU!


5 posted on 03/04/2009 8:44:18 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SJackson

6 posted on 03/04/2009 8:44:32 AM PST by Diogenesis (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: SJackson
"Clinton...criticized Israel's demolition of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem as "unhelpful." Clinton also displayed strong public support for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas."

This crap again. Where we call out the Israelis and prop up the newest, worthless, 'palestinian' leader. Thank God they've got Netanyahu.

7 posted on 03/04/2009 8:44:46 AM PST by americanophile
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To: Diogenesis

Ahhh...lovely Suha.


8 posted on 03/04/2009 8:45:19 AM PST by americanophile
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To: Enterprise; SJackson
"Clinton: Israeli home demolitions 'unhelpful',"

This from the man who brought us Waco.

Clinton's husband burned a church to the ground
with innocent human beings in it.

Her husband's administration murdered
innocent men. woman and children.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
9 posted on 03/04/2009 8:48:41 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Enterprise
This from the man who brought us Waco.

Never thought of that interesting tidbit.

10 posted on 03/04/2009 8:50:45 AM PST by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: XeniaSt

LOL - That’s basically how I meant it.


11 posted on 03/04/2009 8:51:07 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: SJackson

Post number 9 phrases it better than I did. My post was slightly askew.


12 posted on 03/04/2009 8:52:21 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Enterprise
This from the man who brought us Waco.

I thought that was Janet Reno.

13 posted on 03/04/2009 8:52:34 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("0bama talks, tanking stocks!"--WakeUpAndVote)
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To: SJackson
I think the demolition of Terrorist's homes makes Sense.
14 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:04 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Good point. When Bill Clinton was asked about it he referred it to Janet Reno. Then, s(he) wouldn’t comment because it was an ongoing investigation.


15 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:35 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: SJackson
Unlike all those helpful rocket attacks?
16 posted on 03/04/2009 8:59:02 AM PST by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: Enterprise

I must have missed it when she said firing rockets at Israeli civilians was unhelpful.


17 posted on 03/04/2009 9:11:36 AM PST by wny
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To: wny

Oh I’m just so sure she would have mentioned it. It would be so unlike Hillary not to express sympathy for people whose property is destroyed and who lost their lives. (s/)


18 posted on 03/04/2009 9:15:02 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: americanophile

What happened to Huma?


19 posted on 03/04/2009 9:20:28 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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