For the youngsters to see what a real leader looks like!
Posted on 03/03/2009 10:09:14 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K
The libertarian live and let live philosophy is nothing more than a wimping out self serving and selfish approach to life.
Think hard now about just what leadership is and about the phrase “lead by example” THEN you will see the error of your ways... The Republican party can not lead in all directions at one time because it will go nowhere...
Take McCain as an example: he failed -the “maverick: (rebel without a cause) failed because he did not lead -he stood for nothing other than a vote against Obamoron the one...
For the youngsters to see what a real leader looks like!
The libertarian live and let live philosophy is nothing more than a wimping out self serving and selfish approach to life.
How is it self-serving? It is nothing more than the golden rule. Do unto others... I wish for people to allow me to believe as I see fit and raise my children my way, and I choose to do the same for others. Self serving is what everybody else is when they want to legislate what I can do and believe and teach my kids.
Think hard now about just what leadership is and about the phrase “lead by example” THEN you will see the error of your ways... The Republican party can not lead in all directions at one time because it will go nowhere...
That makes no sense. I wish to be free, and so I would allow others to be free. That is leading by example. And I don't expect the Republican Party to lead in any way except in showing how a government can shrink. Why do people think political parties should lead us in how to live our personal lives? Is that something you actually need? I don't want a political party trying to tell me what kind of person to be. I know what kind of person to be. Political parties should be about government and that means protecting the borders and citizens rights, and otherwise getting out of the way.
Most young conservatives actually know at least a few gay people. Most older conservatives think they don't know any.
There has never been a “moral society” — just the usual imperfections of humanity manifesting in different ways under different cirucmstances.
Government is not your friend. It does not have your values. It won't make society a better place. Only you can do those things, and if you could get government out of your way you would again be able to do that. It is sad to see so many people fight to keep their chains in the hopes that one day they will be able to put them on somebody else. If you were free then you could speak against that man and what he is doing, and so would society. But you don't want that. You want a nanny state in which the government should silence him, and it is likely it never will. And even if it does, it will silence everyone else along with him, you included. I really cannot believe that "conservatism" is so dead I have to tell you people this.
The problem that conservatives have fighting this cultural war is that we have allowed the liberals to define it. They have created their own meta-narrative and language to describe it's structure, while we sat back and just screamed, NO.
The problem that conservatives have fighting this cultural war is that we have allowed the liberals to define it. They have created their own meta-narrative and language to describe it's structure, while we sat back and just screamed, NO.
"We have no government armed with power which is capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and a religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -President John Adams
"Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? -Thomas Jefferson
Our founders never intended for Freedom to be the trophy of depravity.
While you're at it you should research the history of this nations "sodomy laws"
Sexual perversion is not a "civil right"
Revisionist history and moral relativism are the cornerstone of modern libertarians. Their motto should be --
"Align oneself with evil under the guise of liberty"
Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? -Thomas Jefferson
That is ironic. He says liberties are violated against the will of God, but you are quoting him to say that liberties should be violated because it is the will of God. Let me guess, the right to keep and bear arms means the National Guard, right?
Our founders never intended for Freedom to be the trophy of depravity. While you're at it you should research the history of this nations "sodomy laws" Sexual perversion is not a "civil right"
Why are you so obsessed with sodomy? Is it a personal thing with you people? But, okay, so you want to make sodomy illegal. So, how do you enforce it? Do you put cameras in people's bedrooms? And why do you care? Because you wish to stamp out sodomy? Oh great idea, round up all the sodomites and lock them in prison, because there is never any sodomy there!
Revisionist history and moral relativism are the cornerstone of modern libertarians. Their motto should be -- "Align oneself with evil under the guise of liberty"
I love the accusations of revisionist history being hurled about here. What about revisionist current events? People on this forum just love to attack libertarianism as some embrace of perversion, and all the while they fight for a government that empowers such people and silences opposition to it. Can "conservatives" really be this stupid?
You can't get enough of that good old big government so that they can use your tax dollars to fund overseas abortions and pay for ethanol and manipulate the stock market and leave you with no retirement. Oh, and let's not forget that they also stop you from speaking out against perversion and abortion and protesting these things. But that is fine, just fine. Why? Because even though you will have no money, no voice and no freedom, maybe they will decide to stop promoting "tolerance" and instead lock up gay people with all those other gay people so that they can continue being gay in prison. That will teach them, won't it.
"Take that gay guy! Free food, clothing and shelter, and all the free gay sex you can get. Bet you wish you were out here where you would have to get a job and produce and pay some of the massive taxes all of us do to support you? Don't you just wish, gay guy!?"
The problem that conservatives have fighting this cultural war is that we have allowed the liberals to define it. They have created their own meta-narrative and language to describe it's structure, while we sat back and just screamed, NO.
Anti-subordination? I didn't know that. It makes sense of course. And I agree with the above, but take it a step further. I think the greatest error of the conservatives has been adopting the big government thinking of the left. It plays right into their hands. They can use the almost unlimited power of that structure to enforce their tolerance and to give a voice to these tiny groups. Government, no matter its origins, is a soulless system which will turn on you. Conservatives will always be the enemy, no matter who voted for it. They should never have abandoned their foundations of libertarian thought as it will be their own undoing. Everyone's actually.
Now, that the liberals have redefined the cultural structure of the country with their anti-subordination theorem, libertarianism is the only option. Anti-subordination negates all authority of the majority (white hetero-sexuals), so that our only hope is to plead to be left alone.
They are not going to leave us alone, though. They believe in pay back, and they intend to get it. It’s pure Marxism. They have united the minorities (separate victim classes) into a majority and plan to squash the white the capitalists, or at least, bleed us to death.
Now, that the liberals have redefined the cultural structure of the country with their anti-subordination theorem, libertarianism is the only option. Anti-subordination negates all authority of the majority (white hetero-sexuals), so that our only hope is to plead to be left alone.
They are not going to leave us alone, though. They believe in pay back, and they intend to get it. It’s pure Marxism. They have united the minorities (separate victim classes) into a majority and plan to squash the white the capitalists, or at least, bleed us to death.
While you're at it you should research the history of this nations "sodomy laws"
Our nations sodomy laws were struck down by liberal activist black robed tyrants, Pure leftist activism plain and simple.
You sound like a card carrying ACLU homo activist. Libertarians will not be satisfied until our next generation of Americans are doped up, whored out to pornographers, And sodomized out of existence dead with AIDS.
Pathetic!
Maybe not where you lived, of course I lived in a real world with people that knew the difference in right and wrong.
Sorry you missed that.
When was this?
President John Adams; "We have no government armed with power which is capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and a religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Okay, so where in that Constitution does it empower the government to force all of us to actually be "a moral and a religious" people? Please point that out to me, will you?
People need to learn to read with comprehension. The point that John Adams is making is that we must, as a society, retain our proper moral and religious foundations if such a system is to be expected to maintain itself for long. Why is that? Because we are free. Notice that? Free. And free people can behave immorally entirely because the State is not intended to compel them to be either moral or religious. If in fact the framers had wanted to say that people must be moral and religious they would have written the Constitution so that it forced them to be. They didn't, and it doesn't, and you are wrong.
Our nations sodomy laws were struck down by liberal activist black robed tyrants, Pure leftist activism plain and simple.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Your idea of filling up prisons, at my expense, so that homosexuals can be offered a buffet or smorgasbord of delights to orgiastically revel in just doesn't please me. Let them get a job and find their pleasures at their own expense. It is clear that what you call morality, i.e. providing homosexuals free food, board and access to sodomy partners and all on my dime, is not what I consider moral. Hey maybe I can vote for some people to force you to be moral like me? What would you think of that?
You sound like a card carrying ACLU homo activist.
An ad hominem which means nothing at all. Just because I don't support rounding up all the homosexuals and atheists and sending them off to prison does not make me anything but sensible. BTW, are you going to volunteer to have your entire house and yard filled with cameras monitored by government officials, watching carefully for any indecency or perversion? And since you apparently believe in government enforced religion are you going to make sure your church is registered and approved as appropriately religious and moral? Just curious you know.
Libertarians will not be satisfied until our next generation of Americans are doped up, whored out to pornographers, And sodomized out of existence dead with AIDS.
Boy, you really don't have a clue about libertarian thought, do you? And what an imagination you have. But, I will give you credit. Your responses to this imagined libertarianism which isn't libertarianism is brilliant. Instead of freedom, privacy and parental rights you would give us slavery to the state, which will then institute its ideas of what is moral and religious. I wonder what Obama will do with all this power you insist he should have? I bet I can guess. But, don't complain when he does, because some conservative might mistake you for a filthy, homo-loving libertarian. Wouldn't want that now, would we?
Besides, Nobody wants to lock them up as long as they stay in the privacy of their own bedrooms, It's when they lead each other down the street on dog collars with no clothes on, or when they prance around in the bushes at the local parks and such.
For all I care they can gang up down at the local bath house and work alive on each other like maggots spreading deadly STDs, as long as I don't have to pay for it, or be forced to stand in front of a diversity tribunal and lose my job for opposing and speaking out against it, or for refusing to accept it as normal behavior taught to children.
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