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To: cothrige
Just why do you think you can use the state to stop these people from being like that?

"We have no government armed with power which is capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and a religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -President John Adams

"Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? -Thomas Jefferson

Our founders never intended for Freedom to be the trophy of depravity.
While you're at it you should research the history of this nations "sodomy laws"
Sexual perversion is not a "civil right"

Revisionist history and moral relativism are the cornerstone of modern libertarians. Their motto should be --
"Align oneself with evil under the guise of liberty"

70 posted on 03/05/2009 7:41:41 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? -Thomas Jefferson

That is ironic. He says liberties are violated against the will of God, but you are quoting him to say that liberties should be violated because it is the will of God. Let me guess, the right to keep and bear arms means the National Guard, right?

Our founders never intended for Freedom to be the trophy of depravity. While you're at it you should research the history of this nations "sodomy laws" Sexual perversion is not a "civil right"

Why are you so obsessed with sodomy? Is it a personal thing with you people? But, okay, so you want to make sodomy illegal. So, how do you enforce it? Do you put cameras in people's bedrooms? And why do you care? Because you wish to stamp out sodomy? Oh great idea, round up all the sodomites and lock them in prison, because there is never any sodomy there!

Revisionist history and moral relativism are the cornerstone of modern libertarians. Their motto should be -- "Align oneself with evil under the guise of liberty"

I love the accusations of revisionist history being hurled about here. What about revisionist current events? People on this forum just love to attack libertarianism as some embrace of perversion, and all the while they fight for a government that empowers such people and silences opposition to it. Can "conservatives" really be this stupid?

You can't get enough of that good old big government so that they can use your tax dollars to fund overseas abortions and pay for ethanol and manipulate the stock market and leave you with no retirement. Oh, and let's not forget that they also stop you from speaking out against perversion and abortion and protesting these things. But that is fine, just fine. Why? Because even though you will have no money, no voice and no freedom, maybe they will decide to stop promoting "tolerance" and instead lock up gay people with all those other gay people so that they can continue being gay in prison. That will teach them, won't it.

"Take that gay guy! Free food, clothing and shelter, and all the free gay sex you can get. Bet you wish you were out here where you would have to get a job and produce and pay some of the massive taxes all of us do to support you? Don't you just wish, gay guy!?"

72 posted on 03/05/2009 8:14:00 AM PST by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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