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Pat-Down Searches at Entertainment Venues Need Justification, Calif. Supreme Court Rules
The Recorder ^ | 3/3/08 | Mike McKee

Posted on 03/03/2009 9:53:20 AM PST by Publius Valerius

If the San Francisco 49ers intend to search everyone attending home games, they're going to have to prove it's a reasonable act.

In a case being watched closely by professional sports teams nationwide, the California Supreme Court on Monday ruled for the first time that searches at private entertainment venues, such as stadiums, could violate privacy rights.

But the court remanded the suit filed by Daniel and Kathleen Sheehan for further proceedings. The couple owns 49ers season tickets and objected to pat-down searches outside San Francisco's Candlestick Park as a violation of their privacy rights.

The high court decided that the case, which had been decided in the 49ers' favor on a demurrer in San Francisco Superior Court, had an insufficient record to support a ruling on the merits.

"Those who provide private entertainment venues, including the 49ers at NFL football games, have a substantial interest in protecting the safety of their patrons," Justice Ming Chin wrote for a unanimous court. "But when the security measures substantially threaten a privacy right, courts review the policy for reasonableness under the circumstances.

"Here," Chin added in Sheehan v. The San Francisco 49ers Ltd., 09 C.D.O.S. 2525 , "we cannot do so because the record does not establish the circumstances of, or the reasons for, the patdown policy. The 49ers have not yet given any justification for its policy."

The pat-down policy was implemented by the National Football League in 2005.

San Francisco 49ers spokeswoman Lisa Lang said in a prepared statement that the team was disappointed, but was "gratified" that the Supreme Court "stressed that the lower court must consider the important role that the 49ers have in protecting fan safety."

Ann Brick, a staff attorney with the San Francisco-based American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Northern California who represented the Sheehans, said the ruling "reaffirms that businesses don't have carte blanche to violate the privacy rights of their customers."

Not only will the 49ers need to show searches are justified, she added, but also that they're effective and less intrusive than alternatives.


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Interesting debate here.
1 posted on 03/03/2009 9:53:20 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

So if flying can be fun — we don’t have to be treated like criminals when we travel again?


2 posted on 03/03/2009 9:54:10 AM PST by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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To: Publius Valerius

Liberals continue to go about setting up conditions favorable to an act of terror.

Dangerously stupid.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 9:56:08 AM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Publius Valerius
But the court remanded the suit filed by Daniel and Kathleen Sheehan for further proceedings. The couple owns 49ers season tickets and objected to pat-down searches outside San Francisco's Candlestick Park as a violation of their privacy rights.

Why should they object? Unless, of course, they were holding.

What is it with people named Sheehan, already?

4 posted on 03/03/2009 9:58:02 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Why should they object?

Maybe they don't like being treated like criminals. Or maybe they don't like a fat, sweaty security guy putting his hands all over their bodies. Just some quick thoughts.

5 posted on 03/03/2009 9:59:41 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

This guy objects, too!

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6 posted on 03/03/2009 10:00:27 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Why have a 4th amendment, unless you have something to hide?


7 posted on 03/03/2009 10:00:51 AM PST by Huck (Palin is perfect just where she is....in Alaska.)
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To: Albion Wilde
"Why should they object? Unless, of course, they were holding."

Why do you need the 1st amendment, unless of course you want to say something unpopular, or belong to a hate group like a Christian church????

8 posted on 03/03/2009 10:01:16 AM PST by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Publius Valerius

Pat-Down Searches at Entertainment Venues Need Justification...”

Your honor, take a look at her! She’s built like brick out house. Can a man truly need any more justification?


9 posted on 03/03/2009 10:03:09 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: TommyDale
So does this guy.


10 posted on 03/03/2009 10:03:42 AM PST by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Publius Valerius
so stay home and watch the game. or go to a bar. the 49ers and all NFL teams are private companies who need to protect their customers.

this ain't just about a terror attack. it's about drunk guys with knives, guns in side the park.

the people who cry about this simple frisk for weapons are the same ones who would sue the pants off the 49ers if they got stabbed inside the park.

11 posted on 03/03/2009 10:04:19 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: edcoil
"So if flying can be fun — we don’t have to be treated like criminals when we travel again?"

Here's your sign.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 10:06:04 AM PST by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: thefactor
the 49ers and all NFL teams are private companies who need to protect their customers.

Please. If that were true, they wouldn't sell alcohol inside the park.

it's about drunk guys with knives, guns in side the park.

Like I said, so then stop serving alcohol.

13 posted on 03/03/2009 10:06:51 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: thefactor

Do you leave your gun at home???


14 posted on 03/03/2009 10:06:52 AM PST by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: rednesss

when i go to giants stadium in a neighboring state? absolutely. my job has rules stating i should not carry in that situation.


15 posted on 03/03/2009 10:08:46 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Huck

Good question.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 10:09:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: rednesss

I hate the security checks and the privacy invasions as much as anyone else. But until terrorists stop threatening America, get used to it. I don’t want to see another senseless attack simply because we didn’t like being searched.


17 posted on 03/03/2009 10:10:54 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Publius Valerius
If the stadium receives taxpayer financing then I could understand 4th Amendment rules applying but for a completely private venue like a movie theater or a concert arena, I don't see how a ban on unreasonable searches and seizures can apply.
18 posted on 03/03/2009 10:11:12 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Publius Valerius
why?

stop serving booze simply because you don't want the people carrying weapons to drink? so i guess tailgating would be banned too.

as much as i don't like it, places like this have the right to not allow guns/knives in their facilities. you don't like it? don't go.

but these frisks are not much more than a show of force anyway.

19 posted on 03/03/2009 10:11:27 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

But you take it other places then??


20 posted on 03/03/2009 10:12:08 AM PST by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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